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Old 02-01-2007
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Re: Young, British Muslims 'getting more radical'

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No they're not. Extremist Islam doesn't fit in the narrow confines of a one-dimensional classification from politics.
Well one can not help but see the similarities between extremist islam, and the lefts view of what a conservative is, warlike and religious fundamentalist.

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Don't you realize yourself how silly this line of questioning is ? 'Berlin leveled'
well i guess if you think extremists getting nukes or dirty bombs is impossible.

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Imams preaching the sharia -if that's what you mean- have nothing to do with alleged bombings anywhere. If they were connected to the bombings (say : sheltering the culprits, financing the thing,...) they will be arrested for complicity in terrorism, but still not for spreading extremist propaganda. If people were arrested for spreading that, every member of the political parties Falke27 mentioned would be in jail.
true extremists come in all types, but one type we are at war with.
one is promoting violence and does not feel any alliegance to its own country.

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Muslims that commit crimes are not protected, vigorously or not. The muslim community as a whole is protected from the generalizations of the kind you're making here by all reasonable people, that is true. There are about 1.5 million muslims in Britain. A handful have engaged in terrorism, and maybe one in a thousand is extremist. The other 1,498,500 should not suffer from the actions of the former 1,500. They are protected from stigmatization and so it should be.
BTW, I'm no Brit.
1500 can do alot of damage. Right I am very tough and critical of muslims, I admit that freely, but I am without hate. I do think that muslims must have to adapt to our culture, not vice versa. Yes I know multiculturalism is a real think, USA is founded on multiculturalism. But that does not mean the the USA does not have a distinct culture on its own. For instance muslims come over here, they can practice thier customs, but they should also learn english get a job, and get citzenship, and vote. And disperse, share thier culture with the rest of us, people should not live in isolated communities hidden from the rest of us.

Muslims can still learn to appreciate hotdogs and american football and still go to mosques right? Thats what I want to see. ( I am not demanding all muslims watch football, I don't particularly like watching sports) I just mean they should participate in the american way of life as well.

I think the arresting/censuring of imams would do wonders for the image of islam, believe it or not, but the ones that give islam a bad name is not me, not the radical right, its the extremist muslims themselves.
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