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Re: Young, British Muslims 'getting more radical'
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Which is why I added bigot to the conversation. There is a difference between having a fear of something and wanting to act upon that fear, if that action is unfocused and taken to the extreme. You have indicated the latter in your post. Being afraid of something without acting is upon it is paranoia if you have no specific reason for that fear or simply being insecure. [quote]
Fair enough. I am a bit paranoid of something happening. I mention in the previous post that "if we never allowed any muslims in the US we wouldn't have had 911." No that is a true statement. But my beliefs are if we are going to allow them in we should be pretty damn sure they are not a terrorist. I'm not against them being here or multiculturism in the least bit. Most of my friends are of another race.
[quote]Noone who is racist considers themselves racist. Look I do not know whether you actually are or not, all I can go by is some of your comments on this board. I dislike bad apples as well as you do, but I do not hold an entire group of people respnsible for those bad apples like you seem to. What else can it be when you want to restrict people comming ot the US simply because of those bad apples. Yes you do have every right to eonder what is going on, no one has claimed you do not. You even have a right to wonder if that muslim you are walking past is a suicide bomber or not. What I believe you do not have a right to do is to hold all the people of the region that muslim comes from accountable for his or her actions, and when you claim you want to keep them out of the US because one of them might be a suicide bomber that is what you are doing. That and only that was why I termed your post racist. [quote]
I don't hold them all responsible. I am just suspicious of them. I don't really care if they come here. I just don't want the radical ones to come here because of their intentions. Now the real question is how can we root the bad ones out without being racist or bigots?
[quote]I am not saying we will always be able to identify people like Atta or the others. There are no guarantees given to yu the day you are born or any subsequent day. All we can do is our best to find them and stop them before they can act. Lets assume your were suspicious of him from the start, he was here legally and as far as I know he violated no laws of the US. We are all a little more suspitious than we were before 911, that is not what we are talking about and not what you advocated int he post I initially responded to. There is nothing wrong with being more vigilant, but there is something wrong about painting an entire group with a broad stroke if you have no evidence that they are guilty. I am not saying we should not be more careful, what I am saying is to prevent muslims from entering the US simply beause they are muslims and because Atta was a muslim is wrong.[quote]
Part of the problem is Atta was not suspicious in the slightest. Thats what scares me. How many Atta's are here now waiting for that phone call? How careful were we? The answer to these questions makes me a bit suspicious. It also makes me wonder how much time goes by before the next attack.
Do you believe there are no radicals in the uS at this time?
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If the average person's butt caught on fire I'd be willing to bet the American media could convince them its not in their best interest to put it out.
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