the US as the "most barbarian part." can you describe what you meant out of curiosity? I can see what you mean an agree with the rise of liberalism, for it seems many europeans cant tell which is worse, americans or islamic fundamentalists in large part. (lol) and birthrate fears, i will say fears because i dont see how it is a problem in the immediate future... me thinks europe will get a rude awakening sooner rather then later... even if it takes 3000 dead in your borders. Basically to me Europe is as low as its going to get, regarding liberalism.. how much worse can it get? the only way from here is back to reason and sensibility.

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