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Originally Posted by Angel Of Mercy
And your point is? Canada may have waiting lists...but we have almost FIFTY MILLION American citizens who can wait until Hell freezes over and won't get any care whatsoever. That's thanks to the greedy Insurance companies, HMO's and Big Pharma who bleed us dry because THEY have control over healthcare costs in this country. And did I mention France? Germany? Denmark? Great Britain? Austrailia? (Best in the world, by the way.) Japan? Iceland? Norway? Spain? I could go on...
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What is stopping you and other liberals from getting the federal government to start a national Higher Optional Tax (H.O.T.)? A H.O.T. is where people can volutarily give more each week via their taxes from their paychecks. 3 states already have a H.O.T. so it could be done nationally.
If you claim to care as much as you say you do, then start a grassroots movement to get a H.O.T. for socialized medicine for people with no insurance.
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Originally Posted by Angel Of Mercy
Don't give me that tired old "Socialized Medicine" hogwash, either. Single-payer healthcare run by the government would DECREASE labor costs; just look into what's breaking the back of General Motors, why don't you? It would improve the quality and, likely, the LENGTH of our lives. Like it does in Europe.
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I will always give you and other libs the "socialized medicine" argument because the government running it will screw it up. Just look at the public school system.
By the way, a big part of medicine costs are due to malpractice insurace and costs. And do you know that most of the lawyers who score big bucks on suing doctors donate way more to dems than to reps?
Regarding GM, part of the problem is high health care insurance, high wages, and unions. Another part of the problem is failing to build smaller and efficient cars and bad managment.
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Originally Posted by Angel Of Mercy
Oh, I forgot: According to you cheap-labor conservatives, there's no such thing as "The General Welfare," is there? I was just hallucinating whan I saw that phrase in the Constitution...right?
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The General Welfare clause was never intended to mean taking money from working people and handing it out to others based on their life decisions. Do I need to post a quote from one of the founders that says this wasn't the intent???
Kramer