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Old 04-11-2007
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Re: America moves to the Left

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Originally Posted by SamInTheBurgh View Post
If you are referring preventive maintenance there may be truth to that, but if you are talking about coping with a serious illness or surgery, you are fucked if you live in a country with socialized health care. The waiting lists for simple things like getting an MRI done are obscene. I can walk into my doctor's office today and have an MRI done tomorrow if I need it. In Canada, I'll wait six weeks. I posted this in another thread about a week ago about Britain's system:

What these politicians and many other Americans fail to understand is that there's a big difference between universal coverage and actual access to medical care.



Is that what you want, Goober? You want people getting denied the surgeries they need and suffering with chronic pain?

As has been pointed out ad nauseum, there is a reason why thousands of foreigners come to the U.S. every year for their medical needs and not to the countries with socialized medicine. If the socialist medical care is so much better, then why are they coming here?
There are 40 countries where a newborn baby has a better chance of seeing it's first birthday than the US, are you happy with that?
40 countries where people live longer healthier lives than the people of the US, and the most any of them spend on health care per capita is less than half of what the US spends per capita on health care.

There are thousands of foreigners who come to world renowned clinics in the US, true, but the average US citizen can't get into those clinics.
And there are tens of thousands of US citizens who seek medicine and health care abroad.

If Socialized Medicine is so horrible, why hasn't any country ever dropped it and adopted the US model of health care?

Other than the odd anecdote, Why aren't people demanding change? why isn't there political pressure from the people who are so dissatisfied with the terrible system they have?

I can understand why say Cuba, a nation that spends about 1/10 of what the US spends on Health Care, yet has better outcomes than the US Health system, has no opposition to it, Castro would have them shot. But what about Canada, Britain, France, Germany, Sweden, Switzerland, Norway, Finland, Italy? Those are all democracies, shouldn't the people have risen up and demanded that they be allowed to have the same system as the US?

Could it possibly be that they like getting better health care, and paying less for it?
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