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Old 04-18-2007
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Re: Supreme Court Upholds Ban on Partial-Birth Abortion

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And your gynecological/obstetric experience is...?
...based solely on the findings of congress and court.

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Then your real argument is not against this particular method of killing a fetus but the idea of killing a fetus unless it is "necessary".

That's a separate argument and the fact that you cloaked your belief in the partial-birth-abortion-is-particularly-brutal argument makes it seem as if you are insecure in your own judgement.

There is no need to beat around the bush. Abortion is horrible. The problem lies in the fact that neither you nor I are medical professionals capable of judging when an abortion is medically necessary and what method to use. Neither are you or I currently facing an unwanted pregnancy and are therefore equally ill equipped to make a judgement about what is best for the mother. Neither are you or I God and are only equipped to make moral judgements based on our own personal belief system.

I'm happy for you if this ruling eases your trepidation about abortion in some small way. I'm also disappointed in your stunningly frail argument (or judgement if you prefer but I'm trying to be kind).

I think the ruling is wrong because it represents exactly the kind of hidden agenda that you inadvertantly portrayed in your posts.

I apologize if this sounds harsh.
JHC, read my posts. I never made any sort of "argument" against this procedure because of its brutality. I merely included the words "brutal and disturbing" in my opinion of it (an opinion I still hold). And I even put them in paranthesis!

And yes that was a little harsh. You accused me of "cloaking" my arguments, being insecure, beating around the bush and having "stunningly frail" judgement. I don't think that was quite warranted.

And since we are discussing the courts decision, not making it for them, then our expertise are irrelevent here. If we have to be medical professionals to have an opinion on abortion than we'd all better get military and poli-sci degrees before we ever comment on Iraq.
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