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Originally Posted by IIIX
You think wrong. I'm not going to tell you my whole life, but I know what happens in these places from personnal experience. And I'll add something - those who vote Sarkozy are not, statistically, those who are most exposed to criminality.
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I'm sorry but I have to disagree. Just look at the french department map. Tell me, don't you think it's quite strage to see the french vote (largely) FN and UMP in several regions such as :
Nord
Alsace
Région parisienne
Rhone Alpes
PACA
So now, do you need a map to see where the criminality is the most active ?
And here is where the people vote FN and UMP :
The result of the french departements
You say I think wrong! you're kidding me isn't it!
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I explained why I think that Royal's program will reduce criminality in a much more efficient way than Sarkozy's. Royal isn't ignoring punishment, but she also has ideas for prevention. Sarkozy punishes criminals, and creates just as much new ones. What's the point?
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I don't agree and this statment is based on anything. Actually, the left as the right has never been capable to reduce the criminality in France. Why ? because no one has been capable to reduce the social problem and the unemployment. That's the key.
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Is it quality, or being stubborn? Anyway, he changed his mind from time to time, to destroy potential concurrents within his party or about the EU.
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I don't agree with you. Of course he has changed his speech to be seen as the leader of the UMP but as soon he has been designed by the UMP as the candidat he never changed.
Since you talk about "change mind" look at Sego who spend her two last month to bash Bayrou and fight against him this last 5 years! look at what she's doing today! she wants to see the UDF in the middle of the PS ! No, she's not stubborn! she's opportunist!
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I read Segolène's program, as well as Sarkozy's program, thanks. And I think you should read my own messages. I have already stated that Ségolène's program costs more than Sarkozy's, and that it was one of the reasons why I didn't like either of these two candidates. However the difference in the costs of these two programs is extremely small: around 5% (Bayrou's program was around 90% cheaper compared to the two others).
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Oh ! you're kidding me again!
Yes it's 5 % for the moment, but when you create a new administration, and new services, you have to provide more money for the infrastructures, the functioning and fonctionnaires! No need to remind if you have to pay now for the infrastructures and the functionnaing, the fonctionnaires you have to pay them all their life ! yes all their life! it's a cost who push the france right in the wall!
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So your rant about the costs of program shows your own disinformation - not mine.
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Hmmmm..... not really. The cost of Sarkozy is essentially based on the 5 years while the ones of Sego will push the France to pay all the time. It's different.
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In the future, please don't suggest that I don't know what I'm talking about and that I need someone "pour me mettre les pendules à l'heure" when you have no clue what you're talking about. Sarkozy isn't doing more about the debt than Royal, they're both just as fucked up on this issue.
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Ben desolé de te ramener à une réalité comptable du problème, et puisque tu le prends comme ca, je vais te parler sur le même ton. Il me semble qu'il serait bon pour toi que tu cherches un ptit peu plus loin que le bout de ton nez. Les coûts affichés par Ségolène et Sarko sont sans doute très proche, cependant, les réformes de Ségolène va nous mettre sur la paille. C'est pas moi qui le dit, c'est pas non plus la droite! c'est un certain rapport Perbereau. Un rapport qui est d'ailleurs largement ressenti comme un pavé dans la marre à gauche comme à droite. Sauf que pour le coup, si Sarko ne veut rien faire de particulier pour la dette car sa priorité c'est effictivement de mettre la France au travail Segolène elle de son côté à fait le choix (suicidaire, et je n'exagère pas) d'utiliser ces moyens de paiment.
Honnetement, avant de me dire que je ne sais pas de quoi je parle et que mes propos ne font que souligner mon incohérence, moi si j'étais toi, avant de balancer des vannes comme ca, je regarderai d'un ptit peu plus près avant d'adopter ce ton super desagréable et vraiment agressif pour le coup.
I don't think so.... they both will be capable. Sarko will certainly create more growth than Sego and Sego will use the debt to fund her programm and to push the growth! never hears something called "la reprise" this system invented by Keyns ?
BTW do you remember Besson ? he has the key which obviously slipped you out.