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Originally Posted by MilleVanille
Russians lived on their land included into Estonia in 1918 at least 300 years. Are they natives? Of course! Are they occupiers? No! Why Russians as natives should leave their native land included in modern Estonia?
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Say what? If Russians (the whole 7%) lived there before the occupation, where did the influx of 20% more come from?
Before Germany assaulted you in Barbarosa, Soviets had assaulted and occupied Estonia. That continued when you pushed Germans back. That makes 50 years.
We also had small number of Russians and some amount came as refugees when you had your civil war. They stayed and wanted to be part of this nation, learned the language and were part of the people.
Why can't Russians in Estonia do the same?
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Estonia in modern borders appeared after Bolshevik revolution, when Russian land with Russian population were voluntary included into Estonia. If Estonians want have nothing with Bolsheviks and Russians, then they should return Russian lands that were included into Estonia by Bolsheviks.
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What logic is that???
We have little to like about Bolsheviks. Wars and such have a habit to create mistrust. Besides, Bolshevism is dead.
Should they not like Bolsheviks, they should give what lands back? I am not bashing, but really am intrested to know.
Because we do follow the Russian attitudes towards the borders of Estonia.
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Fennica, actually i don't see a reason to talk with you. You portrait Russians and Russia in only one way - as evil. Your opinion is based on prejudice, you don't accept facts. so the result of the discussion for you will be the same.
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I portray the new tones and new attitudes of Russians greatly similar as they were when Soviet Union was present.
THat is how I see them.
You cannot argue the fact that us Finns and Estonians have a right to suspect you Russians, as you have waged wars against us so many times.
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Russians don't have to leave their native land. If Estonians want Russians to leave - they should return Russian lands that were included into Estonia by Bolsheviks.
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OK, what are those lands?