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Originally Posted by JHC
Dilettante,
If I was wrong and you still profess that it is the method which you find appalling and not the term of pregnancy/stage of fetus development, which method of abortion would you prefer?
In all cases in which the fetus is other than dead inside the womb, it is still alive prior to any abortion method.
You need to be honest with yourself, it is either abortion itself which you oppose or, as I stated, some stage of pregnancy at which you begin to view the fetus as a life to be protected.
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JHC, in my opinion, all abortions are somewhat appalling, and the later the term and more disturbing it is.
HOWEVER, I must recognize that in some cases the appalling procedure is necessary for the woman's life/health. Because of that, I can't support a total abortion ban; endangering one life to save another makes no sense.
But in this case, we appear to have an apalling act that isn't necessary (that act being the active killing of the baby during an Intact D&E). So that act
can be banned, and that particular example of barbarity ended even if others must be allowed to proceed because of their necessity.
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Originally Posted by JHC
If you can state unequivically that any specific abortion method should be banned outright because of what happens to the fetus, then you must state that all abortion methods should be banned. Otherwise you are hypocritical.
This is the problem with what the Supreme Court has just ruled. If the fetus is a life to be protected, the judgement, if it is honestly argued, should be to protect all life. In which case, the argument of abortion would be definitively answered.
This judgement intentionally skirts the issue.
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The last sentence is certainly true, and I think most people on either side will acknowledge that. It skirts the issue because, so far, people can't agree on how to decide the issue. This law was meant to make progress on a small piece of it on which people can agree.
You still sound as if you're determined to push people to the extremes: either to demanding a ban on all abortions or to accepting any abortion, at any time, by any means.
Most people fall between those two extremes, as does this law.
If you want to know my personal feelings on the issue, then I would like to see a ban on all mid-to-late term abortions that were not in response to a severe and unusual threat to the health or life of the mother.
Thus, I think this method should be banned because "what happens to the fetus"
is unnecessary. We must, at times, accept some horrors. But, by God, we do not have to accept
pointless horrors.