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Old 05-10-2007
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Re: Protesters, police clash in Russia

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Originally Posted by oleg View Post
Ok, let's put it into the list. After the decade of chaos we all greet it, because we see as the central power crashes the local tsar-like "free elected" mafia bosses in regions.

What the hell does it have to do with Nazism?

They pleading loyalty to the independence and souvereignity of our country and are antifascist organizations which condemn the youth ultra-right hooligan mobs. I don't like their stupid theatral radicalism,

yet where are any concerns to the Nazism here?

In the deal against the M. Khodorkovsky some minor foreign stock-holders appealed for the fair compensations as the company was fined and has lost the main actives. They should have done it in Russian courts, now as they laughably addressed to some local US court and turned the issue into the comedy I don't know about the results there.
Anything else in this field? I mean any appeals into the Russian/international courts?

The real opposition proposes the extra-hard reckless measures in economy or the ultra-nationalism in the shape of Kachinsky brothers in Poland. The major part of population and the business don't want any radicalism of that sort - neither in economy nor in politics. The silence means the lack of support, as they represent nobody's opinion.
Again, the LACK of opposition doesn't mean the ABSENCE of opposition.

Where is Nazism?

Total bullshit which is so ridiculous, that I only can recall Dr. Goebels' assertion, that "the lie must be so incredibly insolent and unbelievable to be perceived as the absolute truth".
With the same self-confidence you could assert all Russians have the belief they are Martians and persistently try to persuade me in it. Kick your ass to travel outside Finland and don't believe the media in such dangerous extent - my only advice to you to have more or less realistic vision about our small globe.

What kind of voice do you mean? Solzhenitsyn lives in Russia, writes his books. He doesn't bash Russia as you possibly consider the bashing to be the trait of criticism, but mark the situation today - all critics want to improve the current policy and agenda, not to break it as was in time of Soviet regime. BTW, I don't see the inner critical voices in Finland, where are they, for instance regardly the mainstream attitude to Russia? Nonetheless, I don't assert and claim there are no critical voices in Finland if I personally or Russian/US media don't see them.

Once again - WHERE IS Nazism, lad?

To be short - The president Kennedy was shot dead on his duties. So is it the fascistic/Nazi trait of the US?
The murder of the journalist Politkovskaya was cynically used few days later by the West on the summit EU-RUSSIA as disgustful approach to press on the Putin to subscribe the Energetic Charter. The barbaric murder of Litvinenko again has strangely "happened" to the eve of other big meeting of Russia and West elites when the latter desperately tried to push the absurdistic and insolent economic claims mixing them with the unproved blaming as if Putin was on trial and had to trade his unguiltyness for the economic concessions. The Beslan tragedy happened in the day of meeting of Paris-Berlin-Moscow axis (Putin-Chiraque-Schroeder) hated and bashed by Washington.
C'mon, if you want to discuss the political background of some suspicious murders in Russia, let's start the special thread.
Rubbish, all the roofs are being stuck with sattelite receivers, Euronews round o'clock in ordinary TV channel, psyco-shocking pornofilms in the RenTV broadcasting, internet, SW radio-stations and so on. Again, with the same self-confidence and ignorance I could as well demand for more freedom in road traffic of New-Delhi.
Huh? ) You do it right now, all this thread (and other too) you put your nose in the issues of Russia, are you Nazi?) Or maybe the OSCE is the Nazi-organization as it's only business is to bait on Russia inner problems? Or maybe the western NGOs here? Childish hypocrisy.
It would be rather hard to reply in detail, for the repeating question should then be answered over and over. But answer; Russia currently appars similar to rise of Reich in many ways, that is why it is easy to compare.

Don't you find it a least bit odd that Putin has shut down Russian oppositions voice?

Why do you automatically assume someone who disagrees with you and has a critical eye on you as a Nazi?

There are many things I do like to talk about without... shall we say passion.
About truck-traffic between our nations and just placed blocks of buyin Russian logs. These matters have sida-affects which might prove intresting.

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I never been to Finland and therefore can not say the Finnish elites build up the fascist state.
Huh? If I understood you correctly, you mean in the past we were or are now?
Elites built nothing, it was the whole population, thank you. Civil war had it's affects in that area, equality and rights of workers came to play.

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Yet, I find that silence in the US/British media about situation in Finland suspicious on the background of your strange alarmistic and hostile perception of Russia.
You do realize that Finns do not trust you?
We have little to trust you, that's all, and trust is hard to gain again.

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Tell me frankly, don't they speak about the Judo-Communistic Threat for the Rei...pfui, I wanted to say EU yet, Cursed Ortodox Schismatics or something like that? It's usually the true sign.
Well, you do realize that we follow events in your nation very closely, as it affects us.
And we have nothing in the news about any judo-communistic threat. I actually heard it for the first time now.
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