Defeat is not an option the democrats want hanging about their necks come next term. They want to attempt Bush into a premature withdrawal so they can blame him for THEIR stubborness.

ain't gonna happen.

If the democrats don't fund victory, they have ensured defeat.

They voted us into this war, they better figure out how to get us out of it.

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"We cannot continue to rely on our military .... We've got to have a civilian national security force that's just as powerful, just as strong, just as well-funded."
Barack Obama

"My age group was pressured into joining although it was allegedly voluntary. But later on it was compulsory. No one could say no."
Hitler youth, Willi Demf, born 1920