I feel you actually have a good point. Food manufacturers are more responsible and it would be better to have more regulation on them rather than a small business restaurant that doesn't even know the trans fat content.

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You mean the honor system that what is posted is accurate?

Until people take care of themselves this admendment won't do any good.
But it would be better if resturants stop cooking with so much of it because almost all of them do and people have little alternatives. NY tried to get resturants for a year to change and I don't think hardly any of them have at all.

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With a ban the city will have to test food in order to prove it has too much. Maybe they could test the food and have it posted.

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So we need a govt. that treats us like stupid children ?

Hey, I've known about and avoided trans fats for about 7 or 8 years. if people choose ignorance isn't that their business ? I wouldn't compare this to the smoking ban either because some fat moron sitting at a table by me eating the worst fried garbage doesn't make ME intake any of that shit.

If people want to be idiots and eat, smoke or sodomize themselves to death let 'em. Of course lets provide clear information about it to everyone is all.

You know where trans fats come from?

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Foods exposed to high heat such as deep frying I think. Why?

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It comes from hydrogenating (a chemical reaction typically using a metal catalyst (used to be nickel, may still be) and hydrogen gas) vegetable oils to make them more fully saturated. Deep frying will cause this too. This causes trans isomerization of the carbon - hydrogen chain. Our bodies have no process to deal with these artificial oils so they cause nasty things to go on like minor inflammation and arterial plaques to form.

We can get away with eating them once in awhile but a constant intake of them over time is quite unhealthy and almost on par with tobacco usage (in my opinion).

Anyways, when you see "partially hydrogenated" anything in the ingredients of something there's likely trans fats in them.

This, is breaking news in politics????

I guess so since NYC is going to ban the substance. It has been in the news over the last few days.

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Resturants could change to oils that contain no trans fats for a healthier lifestyle but don't. I'm not able to tell if something has trans fats by looking and how it's cooked. If they post what is or isn't containing trans fats in menu's is terrific but now you have two methods of cooking foods.

The example earlier of the man smoking next to me in a resturant. It's now the resturant that is killing us to cut costs.

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Well time is relative you know ? Some of us might tune in once a decade so in that case it IS breaking news.

Or were kinda bored :-)

Isn't it a little late to ban something we've been using for ... I don't know 50 or 60 years ?

It's certainly not breaking news that it's dangerous garbage to put in your body but ?

Well, that's just it. I would pay a little more at restaurants that used oils and fats other than chemically altered garbage myself. A good portion of us don't care though.

The prices of dishes in restaurants would go up though.

The cost of eating healthy CAN be a bit more expensive depending how you go about it.

My intention is a discussion of NYC's new policy. It is the first case of a major city making it illegal for restaurants to serve food with high trans fat levels. Feel free do discuss that if you wish rather than the location of the thread.

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Thane i have to say Common sense does go a long which is what most people when they eat too much and get fat don't use enough of.

I don't like over-regulation andi think that at times our government is too intrusive but at the end of the day certain health standards have to be met, obviously until now we've been an incredibly unhealthy nation and it is about time we did something about it.