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So what is you repeatedly referring to "leftists" as "anti-American"?
Yes.
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Your earlier post made it clear that you think being anti-American is good
Wrong. When one recognizes who the anti-Americans are, you are not far from recognizing the enemies of the United States.
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but now you've contradicted yourself, so I'm not sure what to make of it. Either you're anti-American or you are making personal attacks. Which one is it?
You have twisted my posts which are very clear. Calling me a Socialist is wrong. I am not a Socialist. Socialists are anti-American.

When you quote me, please do it in context. I don't mince words. My posts are not confusing. I oppose those who want to destroy the United States, our culture and supplant it with something that is not American traditionally.
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I know. I've seen your many pictures of socialist figures in commanding positions.
They have made an impression on you as they are meant to.

The reason why I post image of Socialists is so those who read my posts can recognize the enemies of the United States. No one has told some of the visitors that Castro is not considered to be an infidel. The Terrorists consider him to be an ally and refer to him not as an infidel but Fidel instead.

Anyway, just so everyone understands for the record, the British Airways forbids religious icons like a crucifix but allows wrap-ups and head towels or scarves. It's much easier to see the major differences with images of each.

Here is Saddam Hussein in political headgear:


Here is a religious icon:
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Yes.
Good of you to admit that you are attacking people unfairly with your propaganda.

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Calling me a Socialist is wrong. I am not a Socialist. Socialists are anti-American.
You are factually incorrect as you have personally demonstrated both a love for socialism and a love for America (except for that one strange post where you complained that I insulted you by saying that you weren't anti-American).


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When you quote me, please do it in context.
I always quote you in context. Don't blame me for the leftist tales you tell with your words.

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I don't mince words. My posts are not confusing.
I agree. They are quite telling.

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I oppose those who want to destroy the United States, our culture and supplant it with something that is not American traditionally.They have made an impression on you as they are meant to.
As a believer in capitalism and small scope government myself, I think you're being unfair to those of us with this point of view. We don't want to destroy the US, as you claim. Rather, we simply don't agree with you that private property should be abolished and the government run by a one-party, pluralist entity.

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The reason why I post image of Socialists is so those who read my posts can recognize the enemies of the United States.
So, in other words, you are declaring yourself an enemy of the US and stating that we can identify you by your fondness for socialist imagery?


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No one has told some of the visitors that Castro is not considered to be an infidel.
Well, it's nice that you don't think Castro is an infidel, but I have to tell you that not everyone shares your love for him.

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The Terrorists consider him to be an ally and refer to him not as an infidel but Fidel instead.
So what do you consider his first name to be?

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Anyway, just so everyone understands for the record, the British Airways forbids religious icons like a crucifix but allows wrap-ups and head towels or scarves. It's much easier to see the major differences with images of each.
I don't think images are required. The distinction is relatively simple.
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Good of you to admit that you are attacking people unfairly with your propaganda.
When I claim that Leftists are anti-American, what people have I 'attacked'.
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You are factually incorrect as you have personally demonstrated both a love for socialism and a love for America.
You are half right. Socialism is a mental disorder that afflicts the anti-American enemies of the United States. I am not a Socialist.
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I always quote you in context.
Then you have been misquoting me because you mischaracterized me often, regularly and continually. I am not a Socialist.
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I agree. They are quite telling.
Then why do you make up claims that are untruthful about me instead of discussing the topic?
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As a believer in capitalism and small scope government myself
Define small scope please. We may have an agreement, for a change.
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I think you're being unfair to those of us with this point of view. We don't want to destroy the US, as you claim.
I am unsure how you believe that you would like to destroy the United States. I am hard on Socialists but I tell everyone up front that Joe McCarthy has a living hero in Kinetic. What point of view do you hold that I oppose?
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Rather, we simply don't agree with you that private property should be abolished and the government run by a one-party, pluralist entity.
We have two parties, and a few other insignificant ones. I am unsure where you got the idea that I would like one party. That's what Socialist China has, one party. Socialist are anti-American and therefore, I oppose one party as well. Instead, a two party system is preferred.
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So, in other words, you are declaring yourself an enemy of the US and stating that we can identify you by your fondness for socialist imagery?
No. I am only showing who the enemies of the United States are.

I put Saddam and Marx side by side to make a political point, not because I favor them. It's to show how the enemies of the United States are no different than the first anti-American, Karl Marx was.
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Well, it's nice that you don't think Castro is an infidel, but I have to tell you that not everyone shares your love for him.
You missed the part that Castro is an ally of the Terrorist enemies. Castro is just another enemy of the United States. I oppose the Terrorists.
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I don't think images are required. The distinction is relatively simple.
Too bad, the image help to clarify the obvious difference between what is Political and what is Religous.
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?
You may be correct in that you are not a socialist despite your attempts to promote a big socialist-government program to police other people's sex lives. It could be that you are a closet Communist, they hated homosexual people too and had the very kind of police surveillance that you are advocating. You wouldn't have to be any more anti-American to be a Communist than you are now, perhaps you would just love a "Communist America" where you could control what other people do with their sex organs.
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You may be correct in that you are not a socialist
Of course I'm not.
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despite your attempts to promote a big socialist-government program to police other people's sex lives.
I never said that. You are being dishonest.
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It could be that you are a closet Communist, they hated homosexual people too and had the very kind of police surveillance that you are advocating.
Just because I am protective of the United States, watch for Terrorists in my community, and carefully follow to turn them in, doesn't mean I'm a stinking Socialist. I'm not. You are factually incorrect.
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You wouldn't have to be any more anti-American to be a Communist than you are now
You're flaming me isn't going to work except that it could get you a warning from the Moderator.
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perhaps you would just love a "Communist America" where you could control what other people do with their sex organs.
That's a sick statement.

Anyway, you are completely and totally off topic.

As I stated earlier, a Turban or Burka are just ordinary Political Statements. Where as a cross is more of a religious icon.

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When I claim that Leftists are anti-American, what people have I 'attacked'.
Some would say "Leftists". But, by your logic, when I claim you are a socialist, what people have been attacked?

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I am not a Socialist.
You are factually incorrect.

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Then you have been misquoting me because you mischaracterized me often, regularly and continually. I am not a Socialist.
You are factually incorrect.

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Then why do you make up claims that are untruthful about me instead of discussing the topic?
I make nothing up. Your socialism has a direct bearing on the topics that you discuss.

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Define small scope please.
I believe that government that government should exist principally to protect the rights that it guarantees and should do as little else as possible. If something hurts no one, it should be legal. If something can be accomplished by private enterprise, it should be.

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I am hard on Socialists but I tell everyone up front that Joe McCarthy has a living hero in Kinetic. What point of view do you hold that I oppose?We have two parties, and a few other insignificant ones. I am unsure where you got the idea that I would like one party. That's what Socialist China has, one party. Socialist are anti-American and therefore, I oppose one party as well. Instead, a two party system is preferred.No. I am only showing who the enemies of the United States are.

I put Saddam and Marx side by side to make a political point, not because I favor them. It's to show how the enemies of the United States are no different than the first anti-American, Karl Marx was.You missed the part that Castro is an ally of the Terrorist enemies. Castro is just another enemy of the United States. I oppose the Terrorists.Too bad, the image help to clarify the obvious difference between what is Political and what is Religous.
All of this is too clumped together to continue. To me, it just reads, "Blah blah, blah, Socialism, blah blah, Marx, blah, blah, Castro, blah, blah communist China." I'm sure it's nothing I couldn't read in a pamphlet for the US communist party.
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Some would say "Leftists". But, by your logic, when I claim you are a socialist, what people have been attacked?
I am being name-called and flamed because I am not a Socialist.
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Your socialism has a direct bearing on the topics that you discuss.
How do you repeatedly refer to me as a Socialist when I claim that I oppose them?
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I believe that government that government should exist principally to protect the rights that it guarantees and should do as little else as possible.
Your rights are protected. Have you lost rights?
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If something hurts no one, it should be legal.
I don't believe that. However, what behavior have you not been able to engage in?
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If something can be accomplished by private enterprise, it should be.
I agree. However, you are still not being specific. What is it that you are referring to?
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All of this is too clumped together to continue. To me, it just reads, "Blah blah, blah, Socialism, blah blah, Marx, blah, blah, Castro, blah, blah communist China." I'm sure it's nothing I couldn't read in a pamphlet for the US communist party.
I would like to see something to back up your claims. You make arguments that are unsubtantiated and without merit.

However, I do have something to offer comparing crosses and wrap-ups.

A crucifix is a religious icon whereas a turban is a policital expression.
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I never said that. You are being dishonest.
It's going to be tough for you to watch everybody's sex life without having a huge police force to help out. Think KGB.


Just because I am protective of the United States, watch for Terrorists in my community, and carefully follow to turn them in, doesn't mean I'm a stinking Socialist.The Communists also encouraged people to turn in their fellows, anybody suspicious was turned in and the squealer got brownie points with the secret police. How many points have you got? Jesus on the other hand commanded that you love your fellows. Which activity are you advocating? Do you wonder why people think you are a Commie?

I'm not. You are factually incorrect.You're flaming me isn't going to work except that it could get you a warning from the Moderator.
How is it that when you call people anti-American it's not "flaming" but when I do it is? You're just loaded up with double standards arent' you?

That's a sick statement. You Christian crotchworshippers are never going to be able to adequately police everybody's sex life without a huge Soviet-style police state--even though you'll probably call it a theocracy or some other pleasant euphimism, but there won't be any more American freedom left in it than they have in Iran.

Anyway, you are completely and totally off topic. Twaddle, this whole discussion revolves around religious insanity, persecuting others while whining about others persecuting you. It's pretty pathetic.
How is it that Bible-beaters are bashing other people for their sex lives when the Bible has all the same kinds of sexual antics in it that you are protesting?
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How is it that Bible-beaters are bashing other people for their sex lives when the Bible has all the same kinds of sexual antics in it that you are protesting?
For example?
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It's going to be tough for you to watch everybody's sex life without having a huge police force to help out. Think KGB.
I remember the KGB. They followed me all around Leningrad before they changed it back to St. Petersburg.
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The Communists also encouraged people to turn in their fellows, anybody suspicious was turned in and the squealer got brownie points with the secret police. How many points have you got?
I am unsure what you are talking about. I expect nothing for my efforts. Futher, it is the opposite. I am seeking the anti-Americans not the good guys.
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Jesus on the other hand commanded that you love your fellows.
Perhaps you could teach me.
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How is it that when you call people anti-American it's not "flaming" but when I do it is? You're just loaded up with double standards arent' you?
When did I call you anti-American?
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You Christian crotchworshippers are never going to be able to adequately police everybody's sex life without a huge Soviet-style police state--even though you'll probably call it a theocracy or some other pleasant euphimism, but there won't be any more American freedom left in it than they have in Iran.
What you just said there is flaming. There is freedom in America.
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Twaddle, this whole discussion revolves around religious insanity, persecuting others while whining about others persecuting you. It's pretty pathetic.
Who is whining? Religious insanity? You are vague and angry both, seemingly like you are feigning a tantrum almost.

Really too much.
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For example? King David had a gay lover named Jonathon. Lot impregnated both of his daughters when he was drunk. For your edification obtain a copy of the X-RATED BIBLE by Ben Edward Akerley in which he examines all the Scriptures in the Bible that don't get enough air play.

I remember the KGB. They followed me all around Leningrad before they changed it back to St. Petersburg. Then perhaps you should think twice before advocating their use in the US.

I am unsure what you are talking about. I expect nothing for my efforts. Futher, it is the opposite. I am seeking the anti-Americans not the good guys.
You claim to follow people around and turn them in to the police. Are we supposed to believe that the police don't award you some kind of brownie points for being a squealer? If you succeed in setting up your version of America then I suppose you'll need lots of snitches reporting to your crotch police to keep track of everyone's sex life.

Perhaps you could teach me. Your fear is so huge that I suspect the actions advocated by Jesus in YOUR holy book are beyond your capabilities just now. But you could try.

When did I call you anti-American? I am one of THOSE people that you have been screaming at since you started posting, you've called almost everybody "anti-American" if they weren't wearing a brown shirt and goose-stepping along with your Christian socialist engineering program.

What you just said there is flaming. There is freedom in America. Yes, there is freedom in America, but you are doing your best to destroy it with your drive to establish a socialist theocracy where you will have the power to bash the people YOU don't like.

Who is whining? Religious insanity? You are vague and angry both, seemingly like you are feigning a tantrum almost. You are whining about your fear of the destruction of marriage. It's a fantasy in your head but you are trying to project it onto a lot of the rest of us with your pseudo-science and Christian socialist engineering agenda.

Really too much.
Yep, it's too much. Why don't you try to deal with your own fear first and THEN you can fix everybody else.
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I am being name-called and flamed because I am not a Socialist.How do you repeatedly refer to me as a Socialist when I claim that I oppose them?Your rights are protected. Have you lost rights?I don't believe that. However, what behavior have you not been able to engage in?I agree. However, you are still not being specific. What is it that you are referring to?I would like to see something to back up your claims. You make arguments that are unsubtantiated and without merit.
All my arguments are substantiated and have merit. Anyone who doesn't see that is clearly a socialist.
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