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countrysinger19 · #61 (**permalink**) 11-16-2006

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Originally Posted by CorpMediaSux

And you fit this into your opposition to gay marriage how?

How do you suppose it would not fit?

Hank · #62 (**permalink**) 11-16-2006

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Originally Posted by doniston

I'm right back to the same position on this.

I think it is, or should be their right to refuse to work for the Gay couple.

just as it is the couples right to advertise the fact that they were discriminated against,

and then, in turn, it is the Business' right to lose income and popularity as a result,

and in my humble opinion, and desire, To possibly go broke.

You would have to live in a free country to be able to live by your beliefs.

MareTranquility · #63 (**permalink**) 11-16-2006

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Originally Posted by Samantha

I feel pretty much the same way. But when I say it, I get labeled a Christian basher. The label sticks because a few folks around here mention it as often as possible. I see a lot of people like your fine self post the same sorts of thoughts I have on the subject and yet don't get the same label. I'm glad, yet mystified. I wish some so called Christians would study Jesus a little harder ;)

It's not likely, the teachings of Jesus are extaordinarily difficult to practice in real life, that's why so few Christians actually do it. Loving one's neighbor as yourself, turning the other cheek, returining good for evil, etc. are much more difficult and less satisfying to the average human than the kick ass and take names approach of the old testament.

MareTranquility · #64 (**permalink**) 11-16-2006

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Originally Posted by countrysinger19

Mare, you've made some good points. I still don't think we see eye to eye, but I've argued this with you as far as I want to, and as it is a tangent to the original topic of the thread, I want to leave it alone now.

I do want to clear something up that I think got confused. If you go back and read my statements to which you first addressed, you'll see that I did not ever say that gays are the haters, all gays hate, or anything of the like. Here's what I said:

So, it was "extremist left wing Christian-bashing liberals" are who I was criticizing as haters, not gays.
I think maybe your mix-up came because I made another point that it's a stereotype to suggest that homosexuals are by the nature of being such, more tolerant or loving or better people. I still stand by that. As any homosexual would probably want recognized, gays are people too. Whether I approve of their lifestyle or not, they're human beings like you and me. And to disregard their human nature is not any more fair than to go chaining them to fences and beating them, now is it?

I was responding to your statement (above, bolded and underlined) as being in reference to me personally since I have been called that very thing by others. In fact I am a transsexual who has been attacked by the Christian community every place I have lived based on nothing but my birth defect. The Christian majority in this country is using the power of their numbers to force their religious beliefs into law despite the fact that 1) they have NO proof that their religious tenets are correct and 2) they are discriminating against people like me because they are so abysmally ignorant that they cannot tell a transsexual from a homosexual--and they seem adamant about maintaining that ignorance.

I do outreach in the trans-community and I see the damage being done by the people who call themselves "Christians". I am sickened to see the excellent teachings of Jesus being perverted into a pogrom of hate and violence that is destroying the lives of people who are in a tiny minority and cannot fight back. I have a friend who was born with a penis and a vagina, one undescended testicle and one underdeveloped ovary. Her parents wanted a son, so they had the doctors sew up her vagina at birth and they raised her as a boy. In Junior High School she started to grow breasts she said she was a girl, her fundamentalist Christian parents beat her, the boys at school beat her, and eventually she ran away from Texas searching for safety. She is sort of half and half male/female so she couldn't pass as either one very well and this led to people recognizing that she was different and condemning her for being a "fucking queer". She got beat up a lot by men, the pattern was that some of them would corner her and hit her with their fists till she fell to the ground and then they would kick her unconscious. She has a permanent back injury, damaged kidneys, and no front teeth due to these beatings. The climate of hate towards gay and trans-people in this country is based on and justified by the Bible.

Gay and trans-people are just people, with all the same faults as everyone else and they do not deserve the storm of abuse being visited upon them in this country by people who claim to be "Christians". Have a nice day.

doniston · #65 (**permalink**) 11-16-2006

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Originally Posted by Hank

You would have to live in a free country to be able to live by your beliefs.

i beleive I live it the fairest country tho I think there is much to be desired. And to the best of my abilities I "DO" live by them.

(I am STILL bycotting dennys even after a lot of years.---for their treatment of Blacks)

Steve · #66 (**permalink**) 11-16-2006

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Originally Posted by doniston

(I am STILL bycotting dennys even after a lot of years.---for their treatment of Blacks)

That wasn't a chain-wide problem, though. Certainly, there were Denny's restaurants which didn't treat blacks poorly.

Besides, they've got better biscuits & gravy than IHOP does...

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