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The pro-death crowed is so engaged in defense, normalization and justification of what they do, “they fail to see what it is they do.”
Using charged words to demonize someone you disagree with is a tactic of a weak argument and mind.
I am no more "pro-death" than you are "anti-freedom" my semi-literate friend. .
Right and wrong holds the fabric of civilization together, it is not an area sharing the luxury of being a disagreement or matter of opinion. Killing the handicapped “who can’t take care of theme selves,” assisted suicide and killing the unwanted children share a common ground not justified by label of sheep’s clothing. I most certainly assure you demonizing what these horrible people do in not strategic word play.
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Furthermore, you equally guilty of "failing to see what it is you do" when you CHOOSE to ignore the results of forcing people make a very difficult CHOICE about a situation that you will never face.
You equally guilty!”- “forcing people make a very difficult!!!”
*Snicker* One calling another “semi-literate” would be wise to double check his sentence structure within the same correspondence…

This choice jingle the wicked condition young and weak-minded ass-clowns with has always been a piss poor argument. You can’t chose to kill your wife because she’s divorcing you and making you pay alimony and child support. I need not be in that predicament to see it as wrong.
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Giving the baby pain medication would be an acknowledgment of it’s being an aware, living and conscience little baby. That would conflict with there conditioning and propaganda strategies.
Just for starters, we are not talking about "babies." "Babies" have already been born.
That’s a good example of what I was corresponding in the above opening statement: (The pro-death crowed is so engaged in defense of what they do, “they fail to see what it is they do.)

Allowing the un-born child to suffer horribly as to not conflict with justification strategies and normalisation conditioning is an abomination to mans forward progress and an abomination to civilization itself.
I swear, moonbats aren’t just dead inside, there fucking brain dead.
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Yet another attempt by you to demonize by using INCORRECT TERMINOLGY. And you then have the gall to talk about "conditioning and propaganda strategies." Shame on you, hypocrite.
Have they such a hold on people to where you can suggest it correct to call your wife homosapienerectis instead of honeykins???
Who exactly is calling the kettle black here?

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These horrible evil people make me sick.
Too bad, so sad. Get over it.
None of these 60’s movements will ever end. Why do you think they CHOSE exact opposites of what the civilized world naturally developed through millennia of trials, errors and evolvement as right and wrong (They weren’t designed to be won, they were designed to rip apart the infrastructure of mankind itself.).
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(There conditioning is so effective on supporters, more then half think it’s a right and don’t know Roe vs. Wade was simply a class action lawsuit.)
Well alllllllllllllllllllrightie then.....

...that really makes your argument for you!
It was more of an argument for you. It would be horrible if you people could support such a thing consciously aware and not just totally brainwashed.
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Old 12-26-2006
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Re: Fetal Pain Awareness Bill Before Vote

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When you have something more substantial to offer than a juvenile "is... is not" argument, get back to me.
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Old 12-26-2006
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Re: Fetal Pain Awareness Bill Before Vote

It's amazing to see how much time gets wasted by the Republican controlled Congress, even when they're only working approximately 2 days a week. Plus there isn't any credible scientific evidence to suggest the fetus feels pain at 20 weeks.
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It's amazing to see how much time gets wasted by the Republican controlled Congress, even when they're only working approximately 2 days a week. Plus there isn't any credible scientific evidence to suggest the fetus feels pain at 20 weeks.
We don't know one way or the other so until we know for sure doesn't it make sense to play it safe? You wouldn't give up on a man that had been drowning if you thought he was alive. You would play it safe and make sure one way or the other.
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We don't know one way or the other so until we know for sure doesn't it make sense to play it safe? You wouldn't give up on a man that had been drowning if you thought he was alive. You would play it safe and make sure one way or the other.
Agreed.......But then there are those who want partial birth abortion......Just sick MFAH in my opinion.
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Agreed.......But then there are those who want partial birth abortion......Just sick MFAH in my opinion.
Perhaps you should take that up with someone who is in favor of late term (partial birth) abortions. That however, isn't the topic of this thread.
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Perhaps you should take that up with someone who is in favor of late term (partial birth) abortions. That however, isn't the topic of this thread.
Same sick ass minds IMO.
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Well pro, that really shows the depth of thought you put into your words, doesn't it?
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Well pro, that really shows the depth of thought you put into your words, doesn't it?
Just calling it the way I see it, no since in a in depth discussion.....Not on abortion IMO.
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By Jim Brown
December 6, 2006
WASHINGTON, DC (AgapePress)
- Pro-life groups and members of the House are pressing for passage of a bill to require women considering an abortion to be informed of the pain their baby would feel during the procedure.
Today the U.S. House will vote on the Unborn Child Pain Awareness Act (H.R. 6099), which is sponsored by New Jersey Representative Chris Smith. If passed, the measure require that women considering an abortion 20 weeks or more after fertilization be informed of the pain their child would feel during the lethal procedure so they may request anesthesia in order to reduce or eliminate the child's pain.

Story: News from Agape Press

My commentary: Makes one wonder if the pro-death crowed will wish to suppress this legislation because women can’t make decisions without these people telling them what there to believe, or if they’ll allow them to have all information and make there own decisions based on not only what the provider wants then to know?
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Does it not strike anyone as odd that if there were a question of the fetus suffering pain, that the anesthesia be administered in every single case?

Point: this is obviously a political ruse as the question of anesthesia is obviously moot.

If pro-lifers were concerned about the fetus feeling pain, they would be passing a bill to administer anesthesia in all abortions - just in case. Since they are NOT attempting to pass that bill, it should be obvious to everyone that the objective is to create a legal in-road to hack away at Roe v Wade.

Why didn't anyone mention that/see that/think of that? Are we not practicing critical thinking?




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"they're" is a conjuction - a combination of the words "they" and "are", "they are"
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Just calling it the way I see it, no since in a in depth discussion.....Not on abortion IMO.
What a coincidence! So am I.
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I mean GEEEEEEEEEEEEEZZZ people!

Lets say that the pro-lifers really did want to help prevent pain for the helpless and hapless victims of abortion - ONLY AFTER 20 WEEKS?

They would be shooting themselves in the foot by admitting that anything less than 20 weeks is fair game! They're not that stupid!

I'm gobsmacked at the quality, (or lack thereof)), of discussion around here anymore.
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Why didn't anyone mention that/see that/think of that? Are we not practicing critical thinking?
Critical thinking is just liberal kookiness, JHC, and is akin to pagan heathenism. For shame!
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Critical thinking is just liberal kookiness, JHC, and is akin to pagan heathenism. For shame!
Sometimes I think it's not OK to keep my cool.

Or maybe I'm just suffering the let down after Christmas, or back-to-work blues, or steroid mania

Good to see a familiar face again Pogo, (even if it is GWB dressed up like a whore )
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Hank,

When you have something more substantial to offer than a juvenile "is... is not" argument, get back to me.
Hey!!! I took that to my word processor and spent a whole cigarette on it…
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