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Old 12-21-2006
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Re: Is being a lesbian more acceptable than being gay?

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I know, and I agree - tons of women have gay male friends for precisely the reason you stated - that the men aren't trying to hit upon them.

What I'm saying is that why would these women be cool with a straight man hitting upon them in a gay bar, since the reason they went there was NOT to be hit upon in the first place?

The original quote was "Tip : It's easier to pick up straight women at a gay bar than it is at a straight bar. Trust me.
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I'll explain : I'm not really the flirting type. I have never looked for nor desired a 'fling' in my entire life. Sex is the least important part of a relationship for me. I also have great difficulty approaching a woman. I have no problem approaching other men and starting a conversation, and hence as a result have had straight women who frequent the bars join the aforementioned conversations. Under those circumstances I am much more comfortable, and rather than 'doing the dance' as it were, I can instead begin with real conversation (and often with a buffer.) On most occasions, numbers were swapped, and the conversation continued. One evolved into a relationship. (Which unfortunately ended up on my list of regrets.) To sum it up, that particular atmosphere works better for my particular style of finding companionship, and I highly recommend it for others who are like me.

That being said, my choice of language under the circumstances was very poor...I was gaming at the time and as such spent a long time writing the post, and hence that line was written in very near the time that I went to bed. Sorry.

And, at least 2 that I've met in gay bars were the predatory types who were trying to 'turn gay men straight.' (Not telling them to take a hike was my regret in this case.) I'm not sure if I've had a bad sampling, but in my time I've run into an awful lot of women with that mindset. It never failed...in high school, I couldn't get a date to save my life...then I finally picked up a long term girlfriend, fell in love, etc etc, and all of a sudden I have several girls who never acknowledged my existance flirting like mad. And now, after getting married (going 8 months strong heh) I'm noticing the same behavior.
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Old 12-21-2006
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Re: Is being a lesbian more acceptable than being gay?

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I also have great difficulty approaching a woman.
You forgot the cardinal rule: play hard to get. Women love a man they can't get. Proof here: -

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in high school, I couldn't get a date to save my life...then I finally picked up a long term girlfriend, fell in love, etc etc, and all of a sudden I have several girls who never acknowledged my existance flirting like mad. And now, after getting married (going 8 months strong heh) I'm noticing the same behavior.
Cheers, and hope married life is treating you great.

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Old 12-21-2006
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Re: Is being a lesbian more acceptable than being gay?

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Didn't the Queen know that there were.....err, wooden toys...
No, he attitude was that women were far too civilised to be involved in anything sexual like that, LOL. This was after all Victorian england.
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Old 12-22-2006
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Re: Is being a lesbian more acceptable than being gay?

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Didn't the Queen know that there were.....err, wooden toys...
Silly Queen!
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Old 12-23-2006
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Re: Is being a lesbian more acceptable than being gay?

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Ok, this may sound like a slightly silly thread, but the question is genuine, and one I've been meaning to ask for a while.

Why is it socially more acceptable for women to be lesbian than for men to be gay? If a woman tells her female friends that she is lesbian, it's usually not a big deal, but the same thing cannot be said of the male sex. Women also seem to be far more considerate towards homosexuals, both male and female, than men do.

Is it just that men in general are more homophobic than women? Or are there double standards at work here?

I personally think that it should be just as acceptable socially to be gay as it is lesbian ...
good question, I think being a bi-sexual female is more acceptable then being a gay male or a bi-sexual male....However i dont think being lesbian is more acceptable then being gay.
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good question, I think being a bi-sexual female is more acceptable then being a gay male or a bi-sexual male.
Agree.

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...However i dont think being lesbian is more acceptable then being gay.
Not so sure on this one ... I personally think that it is. In the eyes of the majority, at least ... Some on the forum also appear to agree.
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Re: Is being a lesbian more acceptable than being gay?

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However i dont think being lesbian is more acceptable then being gay.
Isn't being lesbian synonymous with being gay?
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Old 12-26-2006
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Re: Is being a lesbian more acceptable than being gay?

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good question, I think being a bi-sexual female is more acceptable then being a gay male or a bi-sexual male....However i dont think being lesbian is more acceptable then being gay.
What prompts the double standard, in your opinion?
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Old 12-26-2006
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Re: Is being a lesbian more acceptable than being gay?

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What prompts the double standard, in your opinion?
I'd be interested in knowing as well. I think it might possibly relate to what I stated in my very first post in this thread.
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Old 12-27-2006
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Re: Is being a lesbian more acceptable than being gay?

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However i dont think being lesbian is more acceptable then being gay
This is interesting and I would agree with that. Where I come from there are far more Gay men than Gay women. Therefore making lesbianism unusual.

I think men more or less like the idea of lesbianism. However when they see in the flesh they are not so enthousiastic. I know men who like it on TV then when they see two butch women kissing and they nearly get sick. Lesbianism is fine for some men but only if its two good looking lesbians.

Some straight girls kiss each other just to get male attention and therefore are not real lesbians. I think real lesbians are few and far between.

Also straight women definatly feel less comfortable with a lesbian rather than a Gay man. Gay men are not going to come on to you but alot of straight women are terrified of lesbians in case they do.

I don t agree with any discrimmination but I would say its a hell of alot easier being a gay man rather than a gay woman in Ireland. Maybe in the States and elsewhere its different.
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