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View Poll Results: Should Homosexuality Be Illegal?
Yes 4 7.69%
No 48 92.31%
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Re: Should Homosexuality Be a Criminal Offense?

Illegal? You mean like Soviet Russia?
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Re: Should Homosexuality Be a Criminal Offense?

No, it should not be illegal - the same way as visiting a dominatrix should not be illegal.

Personal choice is what this boils down to, despite what some others might say.
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Re: Should Homosexuality Be a Criminal Offense?

Personally, I think "moralizing" by self-appointed "keepers of judgment" should be a felony.

Free choice in matters of sexuality, between consenting adults? Not so much.
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Re: Should Homosexuality Be a Criminal Offense?

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I am a gay man.
That implies that you don't have any choice in the matter whether or not to engage in homosexual activity.
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I was born that way.
"That way" is what the cancellation of threads were about. It's not even acceptable to ask questions regarding how "that way" came about like what are the causes, can it be altered, are there choices, does society have an influence. For all the good that medical treatments have done and psychiatric as well, we are not even able to discuss this as something that can or cannot be treated because the discussion is too 'offensive' or 'politically incorrect' or 'taboo' or 'other?'[quote=noahath;885743I was raised by heterosexual parents.[/QUOTE]Biological parents? If so, you are blessed.
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It wasn't something I consciously chose to be; indeed, I went through many, many years of angst and emotional worry as I was fighting who I was versus who I was told I should be.
You aren't just told by other individuals. It is biology that dictates who you are. If you 'believe' you are something else, that is not a physical issue.
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To those who question homosexuality, imagine it from a different perspective. Try and imagine for a moment if the world was homosexual and heterosexuality was the minority. Imagine being told that it wasn't right and that you could change if you wanted to.
I have been asked this repeatedly and my answer would be that it would be the end of civilization because you and I wouldn't be born. The birthrate would drop to zero and the human population would be come extinct.
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Imagine walking down the street and people drive past in cars and throw verbal taunts, or worse, stop and beat you up for no reason other than you being heterosexual
But people are beat up or taunted for being Christian or Jewish and other reasons. Physical violence is unacceptable as a normal behavior.
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certain places you can't go; certain rights you can't have.
Name a right that you don't have or a place you can't go. I have heard this claim repeatedly but never heard about any particular right that someone has that everyone else doesn't.
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Members of the Forum who question the value or validity of homosexuality should try and take a moment to think about this.
I have thought about this. While everyone should be able to live in the manner of their own choosing, it is accurate to access a value to behavior and homosexual conduct should not be immune to critique. That is not to say those who engage cannot contribute to society as professionals, writers, musicians etc. But, the value of homosexual acts can and should be looked at as to whether it contibutes or detracts, an asset or liability.

On what ground should we as a society be held from being able to assess a value to any conduct? On what grounds should the citizens avoid placing a value on one-woman one-man couple for marriage licensing over any and all other configurations of individuals? Why is it that we, meaning the general public, be forbidden from questioning the value or validity of homosexuality? On what grounds?

It was even stated in this thread that "moralizing" should be a felony. If moral values are outlawed in the United States, all that is Left is Anarchy and God help us all.
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I am a gay man.
That implies that you don't have any choice in the matter whether or not to engage in homosexual activity.
He did have a choice, and he made it. He chose what he wanted to do, and I don't see why it should be a criminal offense.
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He did have a choice, and he made it. He chose what he wanted to do, and I don't see why it should be a criminal offense.
Where did I say it should be?
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Where did I say it should be?
Where did I say you said it should be? Perhaps you could quote me.
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Where did I say you said it should be? Perhaps you could quote me.
I did quote you. Why even mention it in your reply suggesting anything of the sort when none of what you claimed had one iota to do with my reply to noahath?
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I did quote you. Why even mention it in your reply suggesting anything of the sort when none of what you claimed had one iota to do with my reply to noahath?

Why don't you just cop to the fact that you voted "Yes"?
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I also have a higher intelligence then 98 percent of the population of earth.


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You may have a high I Q, but that doesn't mean you are more intelligent. I have a high IQ also, but the difference is that I also have Common sense and Logic, where I see no evidence of either in you. IQ is a potential, that is wasted (and even a detriment)unless you use it reasonably ---- You don't appear to do so.
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Re: Should Homosexuality Be a Criminal Offense?

BTW, I notice that whoever answered yes to the pole, has not admitted it, and it seems has not even posted.
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You may have a high I Q, but that doesn't mean you are more intelligent.
Actually, that is precisely what it means. IQ stands for Intelligence Quotient, and it is a test that is used to measure human intelligence.
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Actually, that is precisely what it means. IQ stands for Intelligence Quotient, and it is a test that is used to measure human intelligence.
No sir, it is Intelligence POTENTIAL. It is just intended and "reported" to test true intelligence. and it measures some rather stupid things, many of the questions I have laughed about.
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Re: Should Homosexuality Be a Criminal Offense?

der.. memorization of facts is not IQ. The ability to understand facts put togethor is. I admit I am much younger and have not had the experiance to learn about all the FACTS as of yet. Secondly Because you do not agree with me does not make me stupid, hitler had a high IQ too aparently, so does madonna. They said and did some dumb things too as well. High IQ does not make you or me any more right then any other person on earth. Nothing I say is illogical, everything I say is logical and reasonable based on the facts that I know currently, I do not call myself genious or taunt my intelligence just so that I Appear more correct then you.
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No sir, it is Intelligence POTENTIAL. It is just intended and "reported" to test true intelligence. and it measures some rather stupid things, many of the questions I have laughed about.
Actually, you're referring to knowledge.
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