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View Poll Results: Should Homosexuality Be Illegal?
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Re: Should Homosexuality Be a Criminal Offense?

In my opinion (and I'm not sure, noah as a gay man could probably clarify), most gay men don't hit upon others that they know aren't gay, or dont appear to be gay. It's actually the homophobes who have this irrational fear (no, Beer, I am NOT referring to you!!) of gays, and thus create tension on both sides.

Just another perspective ... Again, Noah, feel free to clarify ...
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My dad, very conservative guy, told me a story once heh.. he was at a bar(regular/not gay bar) And he just ended up have a conversation with some guy, my dads very social and friendly. Anyways he ends up talking to this one guy and they end up shooting pool just talking for awhile having a few beers chilling didn't think anything of it. And the guy at the end of the night grabs him forcefully and trys to kiss him ! LOL hahaha neways my dad was so furious he almost beat the shit out of him, good thing he had better sense lol. ...
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In my opinion (and I'm not sure, noah as a gay man could probably clarify), most gay men don't hit upon others that they know aren't gay, or dont appear to be gay. It's actually the homophobes who have this irrational fear (no, Beer, I am NOT referring to you!!) of gays, and thus create tension on both sides.

Just another perspective ... Again, Noah, feel free to clarify ...
I think you're quite right there Rahul. the laughable thing is that generally most guys who have this fear of being hit on by gay guys, are the ones who have nothing to worry about, ie there usually as ugly as bat sh*t, LOL. What is it that makes some men think that everyone in the world wants them?
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My dad, very conservative guy, told me a story once heh.. he was at a bar(regular/not gay bar) And he just ended up have a conversation with some guy, my dads very social and friendly. Anyways he ends up talking to this one guy and they end up shooting pool just talking for awhile having a few beers chilling didn't think anything of it. And the guy at the end of the night grabs him forcefully and trys to kiss him ! LOL hahaha neways my dad was so furious he almost beat the shit out of him, good thing he had better sense lol. ...
There will always be situations where occasionally signals can be mis-read, but again as I mentioned earlier, I wonder how many times women have been in that same position when suddenly confronted by an unwelcome advance from a male?
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There will always be situations where occasionally signals can be mis-read, but again as I mentioned earlier, I wonder how many times women have been in that same position when suddenly confronted by an unwelcome advance from a male?
I think thats where the Homophobia thing comes in.. men are used to being the sexual dominant, the sexual aggressor.. when another man is hitting on you its....really different... imagining for a guy to be in a womens shoes.. haveing some big dude wanting to have sex with you.. lol.. . I think thats one reason why gay men are less acceptable then gay women.. but youknow the obvious gay types with the voices and the walk etc,,, thats not that threatning... my dad said the guy went Both ways cause he just liked sex.. i dunno
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I think thats where the Homophobia thing comes in.. men are used to being the sexual dominant, the sexual aggressor.. when another man is hitting on you its....really different... imagining for a guy to be in a womens shoes.. haveing some big dude wanting to have sex with you.. lol.. . I think thats one reason why gay men are less acceptable then gay women.. but youknow the obvious gay types with the voices and the walk etc,,, thats not that threatning... my dad said the guy went Both ways cause he just liked sex.. i dunno
I think there's a lot of truth and clarity to your comment about men feeling threatened because we're used to be the sexual dominant gender. It's almost like a return to a primal instinct to become aggressive when we feel our space is being threatened.
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I think you're quite right there Rahul. the laughable thing is that generally most guys who have this fear of being hit on by gay guys, are the ones who have nothing to worry about, ie there usually as ugly as bat sh*t, LOL. What is it that makes some men think that everyone in the world wants them?
I agree with you. Plus, I think some guys make too big a deal out of it. I'm not gay, and if someone hit on me, I'd simply be like dude, better luck elsewhere ... but it's not a reason to be homophobic and start bashing gays.

Plus, just like all men don't necessarily talk to women to hit upon them, all gays don't necessarily talk to straight men to hit upon them and assuming they do is very silly.
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I think thats where the Homophobia thing comes in.. men are used to being the sexual dominant, the sexual aggressor.. when another man is hitting on you its....really different... imagining for a guy to be in a womens shoes.. haveing some big dude wanting to have sex with you.. lol.. . I think thats one reason why gay men are less acceptable then gay women.. but youknow the obvious gay types with the voices and the walk etc,,, thats not that threatning... my dad said the guy went Both ways cause he just liked sex.. i dunno
In my opinion, it's not really the "dominant" factor. There are many women that are pretty "dominant", and go out of their way to hit upon men (just as many men go out of their way to hit upon women). You should then be just as upset.

As for the size factor, what if Big Bertha hits upon you? By your logic, you should be just as upset over that.

This is basically just intolerance for other's practices. Plain and simple.
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I would be pretty damn freaked out if a guy that was bigger then i was hit on me. I would be freaked out if a women that was bigger then me was hitting on me too.. but i would prolly be more freaked out if a guy that was larger then me hit on me...........actually i would be alittle freaked out if a guy of any size was hitting on me I would not know how to react.. thats different then being afraid of gay men.. i work with 2 gay men in a resturaunt and i am perfectly fine talking to either.
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I would be pretty damn freaked out if a guy that was bigger then i was hit on me. I would be freaked out if a women that was bigger then me was hitting on me too..
How does size of whoever is hitting on you matter in this case?
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I was curious as to the long-held discussion on this Forum, where homosexuality has been held up by some for a few years on here now, as being the central tenet behind every evil thing in the world ... and I was curious if they believed that it was a crime, that they would also have no problems with someone having the snot belted out of them for being gay ... that was all.
Ah, I see.

I'd actually be surprised if even the most extreme of the posters here would actually advocate physically assaulting someone for being gay. At least I haven't seen any comments that reach quite that level of fanaticism.
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Just ruminating over some other threads, and I can't help but reach the conclusion that some people here hate gays so much that they would probably make being a homosexual; flaming, abstinent, or otherwise, punishable as a crime.
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Ah, I see.

I'd actually be surprised if even the most extreme of the posters here would actually advocate physically assaulting someone for being gay. At least I haven't seen any comments that reach quite that level of fanaticism.
I would like to agree with you, but I can only be governed that the most vocal critics of homosexuality on this Forum have thus remained silent on the question...

It's also hard to forget the images in ones head of Fred Phelps and his cronies advocating death of homosexuals, and picketing funerals.
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Sexual harassment should be an offence.. Targeting homosexuals would not be fair..
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