Just ruminating over some other threads, and I can't help but reach the conclusion that some people here hate gays so much that they would probably make being a homosexual; flaming, abstinent, or otherwise, punishable as a crime.

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Sayeth John Drake - 10/13/08: "OK, you're right, I admit to LYING"

I'll be surprised if you get any "yes" votes, except possibly from someone just trying to stir up trouble.

If there are no votes of "non", that just means that some people are too chicken-shit to respond. And, even if they did respond to the poll, it's unlikely any of them would have the balls to present an argument to support their position...

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Sayeth John Drake - 10/13/08: "OK, you're right, I admit to LYING"

On the contrary, I can think of at least two members who will vote yes. There might even be a few more.

I've seen quite a few debates online about this topic but I don't recall anyone suggesting it should be a criminal offense.

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I didn't know "non" was a choice further, if you meant no. I think you are somewhat irrational if you thing there wouldn't ba a vast majority of no votes.

That is what I meant...

I think you're being irrational if you decide you should correct someone's typo and then, in the same post, do the same thing...

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Sayeth John Drake - 10/13/08: "OK, you're right, I admit to LYING"

I agree, and I wonder if we are thinking of the same two.

(and one more who would "Purportedly" do so as a Joke.)+

Point noted and agree to, but the question and statement is valid. Do you really think people will be unwilling to say No, agruing that it should not be illegal????

I think we can safely make the assumption that we are indeed referring to the same too, LOL. All we have to do is wait for them to find this thread, then our suspicions can be confirmed.

I never said that I expected anything one way or another. If certain people find this thread, though, I suspect we'll see some "YES" votes...

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Sayeth John Drake - 10/13/08: "OK, you're right, I admit to LYING"

Until the supreme court ruled in Laurence v Texas in 2003, homosexuality WAS illegal in some states.

To no one's surprise, Justice Scalia wrote a dissent in that case which was joined by justices Thomas and Rhenquist. Scalia later made this statement.
If w gets to appoint one more justice (or maybe even without that) we may once again see the criminalization of homosexuality in this country.

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OK. I'm puzzled if that is how you feel, whats with Post # 3????

I just want to go through my thoughts based on my life. I am straight male btw so you all know, but I do understand what its like to be different and being judged and not being able to be like everyone else. I have to believe myself that homosexuality is a mental issue, psychological, physiological, whatever the word is. I don't believe you can treat it (very effectively atleast), you are born with it. in some cases you child abuse may effect a persons sexuality as well. Its all in the brain, very complex hard to decipher what actually is the cause. I have read and noticed myself that there is a possibilty of a "gay gene", many gay men hold similiar traits, like having smaller frames, being shorter, and being predominantly left handed which shows evidence of a genetic issue. But obviously not all gay men are short or left handed but it hints at the possible genetic issue.

My belief that homosexuality is genetic, is because i have hear about what gay people go through, Trying to be straight and not working. I have a mental issue as well, I have a very mild form of autism. as such i was born without social skills, and had diffucult time picking them up, I still have to learn more to this day. People judge me as being creepy or strange because well I don't talk to much to strangers, and I have problems with facial expressions, I have a blank face all day unless someone says something funny.

I also have a higher intelligence then 98 percent of the population of earth. I do not believe anything unless theres proof, my mind is overwhelmingly logical, so I will never be able to believe in God, Coming from a religious family. So I am Aethist an Anti social, also I have ADD so i do poorly in school.. And you better believe all my life I was told I was stupid and lazy and nasty. I have tried hard to be like everyone else but i cant help it. People thought i was a jerk for talking about the existance of god, tryiing to disprove it when i was little, And i was. So I stopped doing that because I realised it was wrong to tell people there was no god, its rather nasty i think. Also i have no interest in frivilous silly things like trends, makeup personal appearance. I only find mental things important. I also lack the ability to feel sad when other are sad(lacking empathy) but that doesn mean i lack compassion.

Anyways like you, I have to hide my true identity. I must pretend like I am interested in other people when I am to self absorbed to care. I must act out empathy if a girl i am dating is upset. I must hide my aethist tendencies to people. etc.. anyways i could talk all day about this, just tryin to say I kinda know what its like to be gay

Thanks for sharing your personal side with us Metalted. I think your's is a classic example of much of what society does these days, which is to question or mock what it doesn't understand.If someone or something appears outside of the norm (whatever that is) then people make often times incorrect assumptions about them, and apply generalizations far too frequently and incorrectly. My experience has been that people rarely attempt to look at situations from another's point of view, and instead if someone offers an opinion different to their own, then that opinion is basically treated as wrong (which sums up a lot of the posters on this Forum).

I am a gay man. I was born that way. I was raised by heterosexual parents. It wasn't something I consciously chose to be; indeed, I went through many, many years of angst and emotional worry as I was fighting who I was versus who I was told I should be. To those who question homosexuality, imagine it from a different perspective. Try and imagine for a moment if the world was homosexual and heterosexuality was the minority. Imagine being told that it wasn't right and that you could change if you wanted to. Sure you could engage in the sexual act, but that wouldn't define who you are. A persons sexuality is much more than just who they have sex with. It's their essence. Imagine walking down the street and people drive past in cars and throw verbal taunts, or worse, stop and beat you up for no reason other than you being heterosexual in a (remember, this is an imaginary scenario) homosexual world. Imagine being told that there are certain jobs you can't do; certain places you can't go; certain rights you can't have. Members of the Forum who question the value or validity of homosexuality should try and take a moment to think about this.