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Stem cells from womb fluid could end ethical concerns

I found this in the news tonight and thought it encouraging:

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The Times January 08, 2007
Stem cells from womb fluid could end ethical concerns
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Scientists believe that they have found a way of gathering embryonic stem cells that does not harm the unborn child and may end the ethical storm surrounding the procedure.

Stem cells, which can grow into different types of tissue that can be used to regenerate damaged body parts, are usually harvested from embryos.

A breakthrough in the United States has shown that by using ammiotic fluid human stem cells could be harvested without killing the unborn foetus.
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They have called them amniotic fluid-derived stem (AFS) cells and said that they represented an “intermediate stage” between embryonic stem cells and adult stem cells. The cells have the same potential as embryonic stem cells and their ready availability makes them vital to research, the scientists said.

Stem cells from womb fluid could end ethical concerns - Britain - Times Online
I would be thrilled to see a path that allowed for stem-cell research without surrounding it in an ethical maelstrom. If the reseach can be done without the moral dilima of killing anything, I suspect it'll receive far greater support.
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Re: Stem cells from womb fluid could end ethical concerns

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I found this in the news tonight and thought it encouraging:

I would be thrilled to see a path that allowed for stem-cell research without surrounding it in an ethical maelstrom. If the reseach can be done without the moral dilima of killing anything, I suspect it'll receive far greater support.
This is terrific news. What is most astounding of all however, is that adult stem cells have been known to be part of all the cures and virtually none have come from embryonic stem cells.

Anyway, this is marvelous news thanks for sharing it.
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Re: Stem cells from womb fluid could end ethical concerns

Apparently ammiotic stem cells have been used with considerable success in labs and turned into muscle, nerve and other sorts of cells.

As I understand it, increasing funding for stem-cell research is part of the agenda for the new congressional majority; I hope they'll consider this as a potential way to achieve their objectives without causing additional contraversy.
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Re: Stem cells from womb fluid could end ethical concerns

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I would be thrilled to see a path that allowed for stem-cell research without surrounding it in an ethical maelstrom. If the reseach can be done without the moral dilima of killing anything, I suspect it'll receive far greater support.
I'm Glad about this. 'course, since i do not beleive a fetus or a simple group of cells qualify as a human being, I have no objection to stemcell research. I do realize that there are many who disagree.

Maybe, hopefully this will bring an end to the ethical objections tho I doubt it. I think the distractors will find other reasons to object (on trumped up ethical charges)

My main question is why is it going to take years with this procedure to "Catch up" to the present level of knowlege regarding Stem cells.??
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My main question is why is it going to take years with this procedure to "Catch up" to the present level of knowlege regarding Stem cells.??
Is it? I didn't find that in the article, though I'm sure by now there are others.
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Re: Stem cells from womb fluid could end ethical concerns

This is wonderful news. I hope that this goes somewhere.
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Re: Stem cells from womb fluid could end ethical concerns

I'm actually surprised it hasn't generated more discussion here.
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Re: Stem cells from womb fluid could end ethical concerns

The Vatican seems to have no problems with this method of research. Hopefully that's an indication that few other groups will.

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VATICAN CITY (Reuters) - The Vatican on Tuesday welcomed a new way of extracting stem cells that does not use human embryos, calling it a significant advance that could help medical research without going against Roman Catholic beliefs.

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The Catholic Church and other religious groups have been staunch critics of the most common method of stem cell research, which involves extracting cells from human embryos, because they believe such organisms are humans from the moment of conception.

"I am very glad to see this progress in the field of science for the good of humankind," Barragan told Vatican Radio on Tuesday, noting it did not violate "the life of the donor."

In an interview with the Italian daily La Stampa on Monday, he called the discovery "a very significant and ethically admissible advance" in the search for cells that can create muscle, bone and other cells to replace damaged ones.

Barragan said the Vatican was not opposed to all stem cell research. "The Church is not obscurantist and is always ready to welcome real scientific progress that neither threatens nor manipulates the sources of life," he said.

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I'm actually surprised it hasn't generated more discussion here.
I doubt you'll find anything to discuss. It's just not controversial enough
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I doubt you'll find anything to discuss. It's just not controversial enough
You're probably right.

I should have thrown something in here about how these cells could be used in Israel to create a transgender clone of Bush with Jesus' DNA to run in the '08 election. That would probably have spiced it up. Oh well. Next time.
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Is it? I didn't find that in the article, though I'm sure by now there are others.
This wasn't in the article, but reported on CNN where I first learned about it.
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This wasn't in the articale, but reported on CNN where I first learned about it.
I haven't heard that yet, but I agree it does sound very odd.
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You're probably right.

I should have thrown something in here about how these cells could be used in Israel to create a transgender clone of Bush with Jesus' DNA to run in the '08 election. That would probably have spiced it up. Oh well. Next time.
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Re: Stem cells from womb fluid could end ethical concerns

I still have no objection to use stem cells, in and of themselves. I would even go as far to say I would not mind using aborted fetus for research/science.
It is better than throwing them in the garbage.
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Awesome news!!!!
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