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Old 01-10-2007
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Ever been a victim of violence?

This may not be the place to talk about it, but I figured it was social-issue.
Violence seems to be plaguing the Northeast (Philadelphia, homocide rate is ridiculous).

Ever been a victim of someone's craziness?

I have, and will share if others are willing. This isnt about 'therapy' or 'helping'.
I watch alot of Cops and Court TV and am interested in the story's. Court TV has a great series called "most shocking" which I just watched.

If you aint got a story, then what do you think about media addiction to reality and violence. Are you turned off by it? Does it scare you?

Again, just interested in perspectives and not looking to judge anyone.
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Re: Ever been a victim of violence?

I have been beer. Was hospitalised as a result. It occurred during my end of schooling Year 12 celebrations after graduations, and it was simply a case of "wrong place, wrong time"; if it hadn't have been me, it would have been someone else. There was a large bonfire being put on the beach (organised by the local police) near where a huge bunch of kids were staying to celebrate graduating school, but to get to the beach from where my group were staying, you had to walk through a dense park. I wasn't actually going, but a couple of girls in the group wanted to, and didn't want to walk through the park on their own, so I escorted them there. Not more than 1-2 mins after arriving, a drunk guy walked up and started talking sh*t ... you know the kind of guy; just trying to be tough. I didn't react and we just turned to walk away, and before I had time to react, he headbutted me. It all happened so fast that I didn't have time to react. Then came the fists and I think it was his second shot that knocked me out. Whilst I was on the ground he was kicking me in the head, and anywhere else he could get to. It only lasted no more than a few seconds, and a bunch of guys from school immediately ran over and dragged him off, but I was unconscious. An ambulance was called, but was unable to get down to the beach, so a police car drove onto the beach, and a split-stretcher was used (as they weren't sure what kind of internal injuries I had sustained), and I was loaded onto the back seat of the police car, with both doors open. Once off the beach I was placed in the back of the ambulance, and taken to the nearby local hospital, where I was stabilised before being transferred to a much larger hospital in my home town, about half an hour away. I was in what was classified as a "coma 3" condition. Apparently a fully-fledged coma is condition 1, and a normal waking state is condition 15, so it was pretty serious. I awoke a few days later, and spent a couple more days in hospital. I recovered with no permanent injuries, other than two missing teeth (which have since been replaced, of course), and a permanent hair-line fracture of my lower jaw, which you never notice, except when I "crack" it, which has become my new party trick, LOL. The guy was caught and charged with assault. He actually did over a couple of other people that same night. He was just drunk and out of control. I don't hold any malice towards him, or the event; it was just one of those things.

My sister was cranky with me a couple of years later as her post-schooling celebrations were somewhat curtailed by the folks as a result, LOL.

Anyway, that's my story .
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Old 01-10-2007
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Re: Ever been a victim of violence?

Noah - wow. Glad you made it through that. Beer, I'm glad you made it through yours too, I will be interested in hearing about it.

I had a violent mother and ex-husband. I think most violence happens by people you know. Anyway for the past 20 years I've been violence-free

I feel embarressed to tell the details though, since knowing the attackers makes it feel like it's almost my fault. I guess it's a typical psychological reaction.
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Re: Ever been a victim of violence?

That’s awful. I’m so sorry ya’ll had to go through that.
It’s one thing hearing about this kinda thing, but knowing you makes it more real to me…
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Re: Ever been a victim of violence?

I had a vioent ex. She'd get drunk and push me and scream at me and stuff.
That's why she's an ex.
On the lighter side, I worked at the co-op grocery a couple years ago. One morning I came in to work and some crackhead had thrown a heavy car part through the window. As I was sweeping up the glass, one of the local activist-types who frequent the co-op saw what happened and said, "This is an act of VIOLENCE!" I said. "Yup" and kept on sweeping.
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Re: Ever been a victim of violence?

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I commend you on not being mad at this foe.
I'm wondering if he ever apologized or had remorse.
Glad you are ok, as such things can be alot worse. I read about people hitting their head and passing away, from being knocked out cold then falling.
anyway, thanks for sharing. Hopefully the drunkard is doing something more productive.
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Re: Ever been a victim of violence?

Noahath, good no serious permanent damage occured ...

Samantha, you shouldn't feel embarassed over violence against you just because you know the attackers. JMO.
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Re: Ever been a victim of violence?

ok my violence related story happened when I was being robbed at gun point. I was in a section of Philadelphia that I should not have been (Kensington if anyone is familiar).
This fella walked up to my car, pulled out a gun and demanded all my money. I had 40 bucks, gave it to him. Then he demanded my car.
I actually was able to negotiate with him by saying I was poor and needed this car for work. He kept demanding but then must have had a change of heart, and ran away.
This was frightening for me because there seems to be at least a couple murders a day in Philly. I thought I was gonna be killed and my car was going to be taken. A mere statistic.
Sometimes violence does not need to be physical. Alot of it can be emotional. But, you get over it and move on. I'm alive, so what else can I do?
Never go back there again.
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I had a vioent ex. She'd get drunk and push me and scream at me and stuff.
That's why she's an ex.
On the lighter side, I worked at the co-op grocery a couple years ago. One morning I came in to work and some crackhead had thrown a heavy car part through the window. As I was sweeping up the glass, one of the local activist-types who frequent the co-op saw what happened and said, "This is an act of VIOLENCE!" I said. "Yup" and kept on sweeping.
whyd he trash the window? probably a sociopath or something.
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Re: Ever been a victim of violence?

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Noah - wow. Glad you made it through that. Beer, I'm glad you made it through yours too, I will be interested in hearing about it.

I had a violent mother and ex-husband. I think most violence happens by people you know. Anyway for the past 20 years I've been violence-free

I feel embarressed to tell the details though, since knowing the attackers makes it feel like it's almost my fault. I guess it's a typical psychological reaction.
ive got some embarrassing ones as well. they involve family. as much as i love them, they do have their dysfunction. in one case, my cousin assaulted my mother with a brick, and i had to defend. to this day, it angers me that someone close would use a brick to hurt someone else.
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Re: Ever been a victim of violence?

Greetings and Felicitations,

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Ever been a victim of someone's craziness?

If you aint got a story, then what do you think about media addiction to reality and violence. Are you turned off by it? Does it scare you?

Again, just interested in perspectives and not looking to judge anyone.
I have been well acquainted with violence. My father was extremely abusive resulting in numerous broken bones. Most of my school years were mired in violence because I was small, smart and an easy target. I got beat many times during my early years.

For many years after that I immersed myself in the culture of violence. I studied the ways of war and aggression. I was almost 40 before I really learned that violence is an evil that must be avoided if at all possible. In fact, I consider 9/11 to be a major wake up call for myself. I was confronted face-to-face with the results of my way of thinking.

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Re: Ever been a victim of violence?

violence is something accepted. for example, tackling in football is part of the game. when someone gets a broken bone, they 'took one for the team'.
i'll bet your father thought his violence would do you some good.
inevitably, there is the painful reality of death were all going to experience. granted, some may not feel their death. i wager, many more will. i suppose a life of painlessness could not prepare someone for what they may feel when dying. that is as optimistic as I can be regarding the violence perpetrated between human beings.
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For many years after that I immersed myself in the culture of violence. ... I was almost 40 before I really learned that violence is an evil that must be avoided if at all possible. ... 9/11 ... I was confronted face-to-face with the results of my way of thinking.
Which way of thinking were you referring to? An overly violent disposition is obviously not a good thing, but an excessive aversion to violence enables those more violent types to proceed unchallenged. Neither extreme is good.
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