So I guess you missed the part bout Texas trying to speed things up a bit. The proposed changes would eliminate the current appeal process when multiple eyewitnesses gave testimony that led to the guilty verdict.
Granted, this doesn't happen in every case, but you have to start somewhere.

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Those weren't insults, just observations. I didn't tell you that you weren't smart as you did above.

It doesn't make a difference if pramjockey is for or against capitol punishment. You were referring to the "smarter than pramjockey" constitution founders which outlawed cruel and unusual punishment where pramjockey was referring to prousa's statement that he would assist in a slow and painful death for the criminal in this case.

Your "not as smart" insult to pramjockey backfired on you because your post wasn't very smart itself!

Well if the process is to be sped up, we will look forward to more innocent people being murdered at the hands of the state.

Welcome to the 21st century.

Saying I must not love American values and should live in a dictatorship is not an insult? Is everyone in San Francisco as dillusional as yourself or are you one of the special ones?

BTW the of course the founding fathers were smarter then Pramjockey, they were smarter then everyone here.

Don't worry, its not a 21st Century thing. Execution of murderers by the state has been going on since the beginning of human history and hopefully the guilty will continue to be put to death as they deserve.

What would Matt Larson usually say in this instance ... I'd like to hear the suspects side of the story? LOL. As an aside, did you know that there are only two species of animals on this planet that take pleasure in the torture and killing of a fellow member of the species? A breed of chimpanzee, and humans. How would capital punishment alleviate the situation? Isn't it just further the blood-hungry cycle? The only thing separating modern humans from our primitive war-mongering forebears, is our iPods. We're supposed to be a civilised society, yet we rarely act like it.

The two wrongs don't make a right rhetoric makes no sense. The state takes your money in the form of fines. Taking another's money is wrong and illegal, but if the state does the same thing is it stealing? Hardly. Prisons hold people against their will. That is a "wrong" if done by an individual to another person, but is it wrong for the state to do it?

We also need to examine the eight amendment

The key word in "cruel and unusual" punishment is "and." All punishments are cruel by nature. Killing somebody as a form of punishment is very cruel, but it is not unusual. The point of execution is because it is cruel. It is the ultimate punishment. That does not make it unconstitutional.

Uh, you kind of missed the point. Nowhere did I say that the death penalty was cruel and unusual. Try again.


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No, I don't support capital punishment. There are lots of reasons why, but this is neither the time nor the place for them

However, I also understand that in the Constitution it specifically states that the State can deprive the individual of life, as long as there is due process. Until that is changed, I have a hard time believing that capital punishment will go away. Doesn't mean that I like or support it, just means that I accept that it's here.

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Since when have we ever been a civilized society? The 20th century was arguably the most violent in human history, and the 21st so far is right up there with it.

People act like the human race is advancing, but we aren't. We are the same as we have been since the beginning of time.

If you advocate that the police kill criminals instead of arresting them and giving them due process, how is it an insult to say what I said?

I hope you don't deny that you pass out the insults liberally. See bolded insult.

You are just guessing that the founding fathers were smarter than anyone here. drgoodtrips and o'sullivan bere are two pretty smart cookies. Me thinks you know not of what you speak.

That wasn't the topic either. Did you read the OP, where it said "discuss severe capital punishment thing".

My argument is barbarism and torture should not be allowed - if the death penalty is implemented, kill the person in a humane way.

Which you likely have an issue with too, don't you?

What ???????
What the heck does my statement that you've quoted have to do with what you wrote ? I never even said anything about people being smart. You've been drinking haven't you.

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Many times I believe Americans will have to take back the country and start a new government.

Well, after reading down this thread, I can understand why crime, especially that against children, is on the rise........Sick shit IMO, how people have more compassion towards someone who has sawed off a little girls head….Our society is just sadly screwed and I’m glad my kids are grown.

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Anyone who thinks freedom comes cheap, please put the blindfold on and stand against the wall.

Many times I believe Americans will have to take back the country and start a new government.

You've completely missed the point, yet again. I kind of pity you; you claim to have read the thread, yet you've extracted nothing from it but your own predispositions.

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And displaying barbaric tendencies like some of the posters here do is further proof of this. Much like the Roman civilization when it got to the point of having gladiators do battle and expressing wanton delight in arms and legs getting chopped off before the person died which was the ultimate aim - And what happened to their civlization after that?