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By GREG RISLING, Associated Press Writer
Fri Jan 12, 5:52 PM ET


LOS ANGELES - Mike Buday isn't married to his last name. In fact, he and his fiancee decided before they wed that he would take hers. But Buday was stunned to learn that he couldn't simply become Mike Bijon when they married in 2005.

As in most other states, that would require some bureaucratic paperwork well beyond what a woman must go through to change her name when marrying.

Instead of completing the expensive, time-consuming process, Buday and his wife, Diana Bijon, enlisted the American Civil Liberties Union and filed a discrimination lawsuit against the state of California. They claim the difficulty faced by a husband seeking to change his name violates the equal protection clause of the 14th Amendment.

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In Georgia, Hawaii, Iowa, Massachusetts, New York, and North Dakota a man can take his wife name. Personally, I think people ought to just keep their own names when married, however, this is an opinion based on experience not on politics. If people do insist in changing their name then I don't see why they can't choose between the man's name or the woman's name. Also, for some reason I'm kind of surprised to see Georgia listed as a state where the man can take his wife's name. I'm not so surprised to see Hawaii, Massachusetts, or New York on such a list.
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Re: "Men just don't do that type of thing"

I think we should just get unique numbers at birth. Names are way too common, making them sort of useless.
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Re: "Men just don't do that type of thing"

I actually work with a chap who took his wife's name upon marriage. His surname was Smith, so perhaps he was sick of it. I agree though that it's archaic that we need to change our names upon marriage. It's a throw back to the old "ownership" rights associated with marriage, whereby (for eg) Mary Floss married Joe Bloe, she became Mrs Joe Blow. I can recall the outcry when Hilary Clinton retained her maiden name.
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Re: "Men just don't do that type of thing"

Has anyone here ever had any problems with paperwork because your name was the same as the name of someone else? What about a problem because of numbers?
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Re: "Men just don't do that type of thing"

I've never had any such problems Slon, although I do share the same name (spelling and all) of the male lead of a very popular sitcom. It gives me a little buzz each year to find that I often get nominated for a Golden Globe and an Emmy. It makes me think that my old school buddy's must imagine that I'm some big Hollywood star now, LOL.
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Re: "Men just don't do that type of thing"

hate is what keeps a man alive number forty-one. lol that sounds like big brother, everyone gets a barcode and a number instead of a name. You do have a number, your social security btw.. if you want to be called by it.
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hate is what keeps a man alive number forty-one. lol that sounds like big brother, everyone gets a barcode and a number instead of a name. You do have a number, your social security btw.. if you want to be called by it.
Nobody is suggesting the removal of the name. The name can remain like any other commonly shared, but not universally shared, characteristic. Kind of like eye color, hair color, race, etc... Nobody uses them as the final word in identifying people, and neither should they use names like that. Not everyone has an SS#. Plus it is used in certain transactions that almost make the number sacred, or something you do not wish to give out. A number given to every person of every nation (or every compliant nation) would solve many problems that we have with names. It would not remove names, it would simply replace them as the main identifying characteristic. It would not be sacred and would be unique for everyone. A bar code is not a bad idea. It wouldn't be required, but optional.
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Re: "Men just don't do that type of thing"

Just got married a few months ago, and we had considered taking a third name rather than her or my last name. I wonder how much of a PITA that would have been.

It's sad that there's still so many archaic, sexist laws on the books.
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Re: "Men just don't do that type of thing"

I'm old-fashioned so I'm very proud to carry my husband's last name!
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I'm old-fashioned so I'm very proud to carry my husband's last name!
That's what we ended up with. I've just always hated my last name. For me, it's just more of a question of why in the world should the government care if the husband takes the wife's name or vice-versa?
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Ive always thought it was traditional CHOICE. I never knew it was actually mandated a woman must take a mans last name and can never be reversed.

I would feel owned if I had no such option. Owned by the state. Do they own us that they can tell us, at this level, what we can/cannot do?
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That's what we ended up with. I've just always hated my last name. For me, it's just more of a question of why in the world should the government care if the husband takes the wife's name or vice-versa?
The question I have always asked is why is marriage recognized at all by the government. If it is religious, keep it religious. If it is not religious, then stop whining when homos want to get it. IMO if the gov't just disregarded it we would not have many of the shitty wedge issues we have today.
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Re: "Men just don't do that type of thing"

My mom kept her last name...

I like the Spanish cultures where you tack on the mans name to yours.

Then your kids have the double name. Of course, they drop the mommy's if they're a girl and they get hitched...
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The question I have always asked is why is marriage recognized at all by the government. If it is religious, keep it religious. If it is not religious, then stop whining when homos want to get it. IMO if the gov't just disregarded it we would not have many of the shitty wedge issues we have today.
Absolutely. I'd love to see a differentiation between civil unions (yielding benefits recognized by the state) and marriage (a religious ceremony).
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