Pornography enhances my marriage. My wife & I think it's a riot. Our marriage is ironclad strong, & our family is healthy, physically & mentally. Our morals are just right, and trust me, my wife doesn't feel subjugated one little bit. (If anything, the opposite might be true )

So please, with sugar on top, I would like some more of your idle nonsense.

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Your the one trying to impose your moral values on o thers, which I dont like.

Show me some proof, please.

Why is there so much porn in the US then?

Some porn is demeaning to women, but not all. If you look at femdom porn, that would actually be demeaning to men. And NOT all regular hardcore porn has to be demeaning to women. Last, there are many women who enjoy watching porn with their partners.

I am not sure about it having a -ve value to society either.

I was talking about the society as a whole and less about each of us individually.

What troubles me to hear that you seem to rely on pornography for you and your wife to reach some fulfillment.I have no way to verify your claims regardless. Again, your personal story is hardly what my concern is but, the nation as a whole and the path that we are taking toward less and less moral standards of conduct overall.What morals are those? Can you describe them?I was referring to the women who are used as part of the pornography creation itself and less regarding those who consume it.I personally would be more inclined to answer you if you would drop the condescension. Morality is not idle nonsense to me.

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You are trying to impose your lack of morality on others.Whatever comments I made requiring more proof have likely been made already. It's not proof that you seek but to sidetrack and to occupy my time on something that you would dismiss anyway which is your history.That's the wrong question. Why are there so many families in turmoil and divorce rates so high would be a better question. And, one could begin to answer this by mentioning the breakdown of the moral fabric of society, including the availability of pornoography as one possible cause.I am unfamiliar with femdom or other forms of porn, thank God, but I am sure it demeans men and women both. Pornography, those who engage in the making of it, and those who consume it, degrade themselves morally and spritually.The only measurable value that I see is a negative one.

I admit to enjoying seeing an attactive woman but that doesn't mean that I require a nude pictorial. Calling me prudish isn't going to hurt my feelings any. I enjoy beauty in art, the human form and architectural elements as well. Beauty is something that everyone cherishes. Pornography doesn't lift us but brings us down if I were are to view or engage in the making of it. Pornography is one more immoral negative element that harms American culture.

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This is funny.

If he can't talk about his personal experience and relate it to society as a whole, how in the world can you?

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Actually, you are the one whose doing that. Your the one whose saying porn, homosexuality et al should not be allowed, just because you said so.

So you admit you have no proof that porn destroys marriages and families. Then stop debating it if you have no proof or way to logically back up what you say.

You don't worry about what's the right question. Just please answer what I asked. Families in turmoil and divorce rates have been higher as of late, but porn has been around for ages. So it would be wrong to conclude that porn is directly responsible for this. Perhaps in some cases, but not the majority. There are many other reasons, such as increased job pressure on couples, both couples working and not having enough time to spend w/each other, etc. But thats a different issue altogether.

Femdom means women dominating men so it "demeans" men (if you consider femdom to be demeaning that is - those who like it don't - just as those who like porn dont necessarily consider it to be demeaning to anyone).

How? They are simply potraying sex acts between consenting adults - whats so morally degrading about it? Is having sex w/your wife and then later watching a video of it morally degrading then by that logic?

I didnt say that we REQUIRE porn. But if it's there to be enjoyed, no biggie.

I didnt call you a prude. Further, I don't see where porn brings anything down if you get my drift ...

Some people enjoy watching horse races. others prefer watching Human races. nothing wrong or immoral about that.

The rest of your post isn't worthy of comment.

I said they are immoral but tolerated.

As mentioned previously, when I reach a misquote or name-calling episode I cease to read the rest. If you would like to me to adress something, I am happy to unless of course more names or misquotes occur.

Pornography is damaging the culture of the US. It demeans women mostly and helps to destroy families along with other immoral behaviors.

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There hasn't been any name calling going on.

There are these points you have to address:

1. Why is porn immoral?
2. Prove that porn destroys marriage and families.
3. Prove it demeans women in all instances.
4. Why is there so much porn in the USA?

Please don't evade the questions.

Pornography creation demeans women and men both during the process of it's manufacturing. It has been known to spread disease and many in Hollywood became infected with aids just on the news a year or so ago.

Publishing pornography is also immoral and it is known to be seen accidently by children who are just happen to be searching the internet. It damages the core of our families by exposing impressionable youth to disgusting and vulgar images thus destroying their innocence.

Pornography has been treated as an addiction. Most of your sexual predators have been addicted to pornography. Pornography has been shown to break up homes when a spouse discovers that their significant other is viewing images of strangers in comprimised situations. It is known to lead to mentally or emotionally disconnected and desensitizes those who view it. It is arousing some one sexually for a financial gain and akin to prostitution.

There is a reason why they are called "dirty pictures" because they are unclean morally and mentally. While there are varying degrees to pornography, most are immoral due to their vulgar, tasteless and crude images.

I hope this helps. Why do you believe it's NOT immoral? Why do you support the spread of vulgarity?

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I voted 3, but it really should be 3.5. I don't like the options presented here.
In my opinion, pornography can be harmful, much like alcohol, tobacco, marijuana, and video games. That doesn't mean people should not be allowed to acquire some. Like many other things, it's possible that it is healthy in small doses and unhealthy in large ones.
So pornography should be easily accessible on the free market, but regulations should exist to prevent it from being sold "everywhere". Much like tobacco or alcohol.

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How does it demean women and men both? First you said it demeans women, now you say demean men. My question is, what makes you think they are being demeaned in any way?

Any form of unprotected sex may spread disease. Are you saying we should avoid having sex altogether, period? What if porn stars used condoms? Then what? You wouldn't mind it?

Again, why?

Yes, well then enable child control software on your machine. Children can "accidentally" see condoms too - does this mean those are immoral too?

LMAO!!!

You really think youth these days are "innocent" enough not to know about sex already?? Further, how are the images disgusting and vulgar? Is sex in itself disgusting and vulgar?

So has drinking whiskey. Should we ban that too?

A lot of drunk drivers are alcoholics. Should we ban liqor too, then?

I disagree. Most that I know of would not break up with their significant other simply because that other person watches porn, or was caught watching porn. They may get upset (and some won't), but it doesnt mean they'll break up.
Lead to mentally or emotionally disconnected?? What do you mean, and can you please provide some proof?

So whats wrong with that? Bars get people drunk for financial gain. Should we ban those too?

I disagree. It's because of a lot of people out ther elik eyou who feel sex is something "dirty" and shouldn't be talked about at all.
Again, whats vulgar, crude and tasteless to one person may be acceptable to another person.

It's a start. Thanks for answering my questions to some degree, at least.

Because it depicts sexual acts between consenting adults, nothing else. I dont view sex between consenting adults to be immoral, so I don't think porn is immoral. Simple as that.

I don't consider porn to be vulgar.