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So what you're saying is that it's wrong for the Republicans to get involved with Terry Schiavo and to try and to pass amendments defining marriage?
No, those are state issues
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.. I don't need Government for anything outside of national security. It infuriates a lot of people to hear that, but that will go under the category of not my problem. I do just fine without this Government program or that Government program blocking the ability of me making my own decisions.

Not really much more I can say, I welcome any questions in case I haven't been clear on certain aspects of who I am.
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No, those are state issues
I guess the confusion came from your prior post which made no distinction between federal, state or any other form of government.

Obviously, the point of contention in the Schaivo case was deciding whether of not this was a personal decision or a governmental decision. By your response we can imply that you believe Terry Schaivo's case was a matter for state government and not federal government and certainly not a personal matter.

Correct?

In which case, you would also be fine with state funded "program[s] blocking the ability of me making my own decisions"
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I guess the confusion came from your prior post which made no distinction between federal, state or any other form of government.

Obviously, the point of contention in the Schaivo case was deciding whether of not this was a personal decision or a governmental decision. By your response we can imply that you believe Terry Schaivo's case was a matter for state government and not federal government and certainly not a personal matter.

Correct?

In which case, you would also be fine with state funded "program[s] blocking the ability of me making my own decisions"
Yes, and I do need to apologize, often I get to typing and forget to specify "State" and "Federal" In the Schaivo case is a perfect example, the State should've recognized the fact that Michael Schaivo due to the fact that he was in a common-law marriage with another woman was in no position to take his former wifes life.

As for the state they have more authority in my life, as well as any other local Government, but when they block me being able to make my own decisions, then that is an infringement on my Constitutional rights. It is the State and local Governments job to insure that my rights are not infringed.
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Yes, and I do need to apologize, often I get to typing and forget to specify "State" and "Federal" In the Schaivo case is a perfect example, the State should've recognized the fact that Michael Schaivo due to the fact that he was in a common-law marriage with another woman was in no position to take his former wifes life.

As for the state they have more authority in my life, as well as any other local Government, but when they block me being able to make my own decisions, then that is an infringement on my Constitutional rights. It is the State and local Governments job to insure that my rights are not infringed.
So when gay people are denied full citizenship by not being allowed to marry is that an infringement of their Constitutional right to the pursuit of happiness?
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So when gay people are denied full citizenship by not being allowed to marry is that an infringement of their Constitutional right to the pursuit of happiness?
No, I don't see how it could be.
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I'm 44, married 21 years with a 20 year old daughrer.

I retired from the military in January 2001. I'm a decorated combat veteran. My final seven years in the military were spent working in the areas of anti and counter-terrorism, and law enforcement. I now work for a large American guitar manufacturer.

Politically, I tend to be more right than left, although I certainly hold views which many would call liberal. I don't like abortion, but I'm not going to go on some all-consuming crusade to outlaw it, as I believe it's not my place.

I absolutely support a law-abiding citizen's right to own (and, preferably carry) a gun. I vote Republican; have since voting for Reagan in 1980.

I think gay couples should be permitted to marry.

I believe conservatives today, and liberals, as well, are nothing like what a true conservative or true liberal should be. Kennedy was a "true" liberal. My grandfather was a true conservative (he worked for Richard Nixon). The conservatives I see and hear today are nothing like him.

I believe that people like Sean Hannity and Rush Limbaugh have done far more damage to the Republican party and conservative values than anything else. Likewise, people like Micahel Moore and Randi Rhoads have done more to destroy true liberal values more than any other single thing.

I believe all politicians start out their careers with a sincere and true desire to do good work. Sadly, I believe they're all pretty much worthless if they spend more than a single term inside the beltway. By then, they're jaded at best and, at worst, they're on the take.

Religiously, I was a christian until age 29. A significant event in my life caused me to re-evaluate things and, after much consideration, I reached the conclusion that what I spent the first 29 years of my life believing was a lie.That was a decision I made for me, yet some people act as though my making that decision was tantamount to my beginning a crusade to rid the world of organized religion.

I absolutely detest followers of any religion presenting themselves as though they hold the holy road map to heaven. Religion is far too personal an issue, and it's disturbing to me that so many people treat it as anything but.

I have little patience for stupidity and ignorance. I rarely, if ever, back down from a fight although, at 44, I have this thing about being hit, so I don't go looking for them.

I am fiercely loyal to family and friends.

If crossed, there's rarely a second chance for someone to salvage a friendship.

I have a side-gig as a concert photographer, I like Harry Connick Jr's "She", and I can knock the dots off a pair of dice at 950 yards with an M40A1.

I drive a gas-guzzlin' SUV, have a good bit of Exxon stock, and I've played guitar since age 15...
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No, I don't see how it could be.
As long as the government--Federal or State--is denying rights to people you don't like because of your religion, then it's okay? It's just when they interfere with YOUR life, liberty, and pursuit of happiness that it becomes a problem.
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I’m one who considers all on this forum close friends. I never cared about politics before or even thought to blame an administration if I was un-employed or having tough times (I just found another job and tried harder.).
When the attacks hit my home town of Tampa Fla. I began getting concerned. I watched on the news with a tear in my eye as the city burned community Christmas decorations that hung across the street lights since I was a child (They couldn‘t sell, leave in a landfill for people to take or give them away due to some moonbat interpretation of the constitution.).
The next year Tampa declared December homo month and placed pride banners on the same hooks the Christmas decorations once hung (Kinda opened my eyes to what was occurring in America.).
While using the computers at the University of South Florida’s computer lab I found a political forum and started arguing with a guy called shotgun. We went at it for years. I kept pissing him off, he kept getting banned and today I have no idea where he is. I found this site while looking for him and found it the best site on the internet.
Now I just piss off liberals in general…
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I’m one who considers all on this forum close friends. I never cared about politics before or even thought to blame an administration if I was un-employed or having tough times (I just found another job and tried harder.).
When the attacks hit my home town of Tampa Fla. I began getting concerned. I watched on the news with a tear in my eye as the city burned community Christmas decorations that hung across the street lights since I was a child (They couldn‘t sell, leave in a landfill for people to take or give them away due to some moonbat interpretation of the constitution.).
The next year Tampa declared December homo month and placed pride banners on the same hooks the Christmas decorations once hung (Kinda opened my eyes to what was occurring in America.).
While using the computers at the University of South Florida’s computer lab I found a political forum and started arguing with a guy called shotgun. We went at it for years. I kept pissing him off, he kept getting banned and today I have no idea where he is. I found this site while looking for him and found it the best site on the internet.
Now I just piss off liberals in general…
You should consider perspectives.com. Though I've never gone by the username "shotgun", rest assured I've been banned from there on numerous occasions.
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As long as the government--Federal or State--is denying rights to people you don't like because of your religion, then it's okay? It's just when they interfere with YOUR life, liberty, and pursuit of happiness that it becomes a problem.
I didn't say they were denied the right to be together, that's fine. The reality is, even if it is voted in by the people, doesn't mean that I have to recognize them as married couples. Marriage isn't a legal issue. Marriage takes place only at the alter of God. For example, I could be married legally, but not be truly married, marriage in order to work properly, must have Gods approval and guidance. Besides, if the Founding Fathers wanted gays to marry, they would've written that specifically in the Constitution. Fact is, they didn't, requiring it, along with abortion, to be decided by the people in the states. If we here in Missouri vote to allow gay marriage, I can still disagree with the premise, but would accept that it is then legally recognized, and still be able to deny the validity of their marriage. Would you agree that abortion is a violation of the rights of "Life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness"?
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Marriage takes place only at the alter of God. For example, I could be married legally, but not be truly married, marriage in order to work properly, must have Gods approval and guidance.
Bullshit.

Bullshit, bullshit, bullshit.

When my wife and I were married, it was not in a church, and it was not before god. We've been married 21 years. Our marriage has worked fine...

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Also not written into the Constitution is your right to obtain a free copy of your credit report.

Yet, we do it every day...
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Wow, that's a tough question.

Who am I?

Hmm.

I'm a person that really strives to find the good in humanity. After years of working with people in the worst situations, I've realized that each of us has some good in us, whether we like it or not. Many of us seem to strive to suppress that goodness that's innately within us, but I don't think that they can really do it.

As far as our country (that'd be the US) goes, I believe that we can go to the next level. I believe that we can become a people that works together to seek the elevation of every individual in our society. When they're at the lowest of the low, we'll feed them and clothe them. We'll give them comfort and medicine. When they're at the highest of the high, we'll ask them to look back and remember that we're all human, and that we are all responsible to each other.

For religion? Well, I don't know. I tried Christianity, but it didn't fit me. The closest I came was in the Basilica in the Vatican. It's truly a soul-moving experience, but I was still concerned about the Church as an entity in itself and some of the actions that it has taken. In my view, there may very well be a God, but he/she/it is unlikely to match anything created by any of humanity's religions, because those religions have warped their perception of God to control humanity. Somewhere, in the middle of it all, may be a God peeking through.

Or, we die and rot and that's it. We'll never know, either way.
I really like this post a lot. It makes me believe that there are some really good, caring people out there. Especially the part of lowest of the low and highest of the high. It's like when someone gives you the right of way in traffic, you often thank them by giving someone else the right of way.

As far as god, well, I am not a believer.

As far as who I am? I'm not so sure. I don't think anyone truly knows who they are because things are always changing your outlook. I certainly know what I like and what I don't like, but as a person, I'm kinda just there.
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The short version:

A disillusioned baby boomer who's tired of being lied to by a**holes that tell me it's "for my own good(or safety or security]."

A vet who actually has been in the shit as those that are putting my brothers and sisters in it again, sat back on their chickenhawk asses, pretending to be "great patriots. They add insult to injury by supporting veterans by cutting funding and services to them.

I'm a devoted Grandpa to the two most beautiful grandaughters in the Universe. (Tho I might just be a little biased.) It pisses me off to see the kind of World some people are doing their damnest to leave to them, just for the sake of their own personal greed and control freak agendas.

I'm a spiritual man that has come to abhor ALL organized religions, as there isn't a nickels difference between the entire lot. Each and every one of them is nothing more than a device to exert control over other people. The world would be a MUCH better place if they were ALL banished.

I'm a far left social progressive and a fiscal conservative, Exactly the opposite of the corrupt bunch of scoundrels that have STOLEN the republican Party.

I take nothing at face value. A skepticism borne of my life experience, which has taught me that ANYONE who aspires to be a "leader of the people" is guilty of having hidden agendas, until proven innocent.

My passion is fine woodworking. My career has been in home building, starting in remodeling, then framing, then general contracting, and finally now supplying materials and the knowledge of my experience to builders.
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The short version:

A disillusioned baby boomer who's tired of being lied to by a**holes that tell me it's "for my own good(or safety or security]."

A vet who actually has been in the shit as those that are putting my brothers and sisters in it again, sat back on their chickenhawk asses, pretending to be "great patriots. They add insult to injury by supporting veterans by cutting funding and services to them.

I'm a devoted Grandpa to the two most beautiful grandaughters in the Universe. (Tho I might just be a little biased.) It pisses me off to see the kind of World some people are doing their damnest to leave to them, just for the sake of their own personal greed and control freak agendas.

I'm a spiritual man that has come to abhor ALL organized religions, as there isn't a nickels difference between the entire lot. Each and every one of them is nothing more than a device to exert control over other people. The world would be a MUCH better place if they were ALL banished.

I'm a far left social progressive and a fiscal conservative, Exactly the opposite of the corrupt bunch of scoundrels that have STOLEN the republican Party.

I take nothing at face value. A skepticism borne of my life experience, which has taught me that ANYONE who aspires to be a "leader of the people" is guilty of having hidden agendas, until proven innocent.

My passion is fine woodworking. My career has been in home building, starting in remodeling, then framing, then general contracting, and finally now supplying materials and the knowledge of my experience to builders.
I like this post too heh heh. Speaks the truth.
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Bullshit.

Bullshit, bullshit, bullshit.

When my wife and I were married, it was not in a church, and it was not before god. We've been married 21 years. Our marriage has worked fine...
You get mad easily, Steve. Trust me, if God hadn't wanted you to be married to your current wife, he would've stepped in (Congrats on the 21 years, my wife and I are at 11 years on our way to eternity!)

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Yet, we do it every day...
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