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Re: A Question For Conservatives.

I bet the republicans aim to enslave the democrats. gasp*
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why do liberals care about everything, But the strength and well being of the nation as a whole?
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..and Matt's giving grief to Reino over making unsupported GENERALIZAIONS of Repubs, but wonder of wonders, says jack about you? What's up with that Matt?

Oh... and BTW ted, you obviously don't know much about REAL LIFE "liberals" or you wouldn't make such a blatantly FALSE statement. Put down the kool-aid, turn off the dittohead crap, and open your eyes (and mind.) What you see might surprise you.
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Re: A Question For Conservatives.

lol its funny how you are more offended by my criticism of liberals then of the idea that the republicans want to reinstate slavery. I find that my criticism is relatively mild comparatively. Sure when I talk about liberals, I am talking about the odd ball leftists in this room rather then anywhere else mostly and anyone else that can't articulate themselves beyond "bush halibutorn cheney rove neo cons are all evil and only care about oil bla bla bla". Also koolaid is awesome I dont know why everyones always talking about it in such a negative light
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Re: A Question For Conservatives.

I know there are some practical liberals, but they are just so damn quiet. They are all being drowned out by the insanity.

BUSH EQUALS HITLER!!!
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why do liberals care about everything, But the strength and well being of the nation as a whole?
How is America's actions in Iraq to the benefit of the strength and well being of this nation? If we weren't dinking around in Iraq then we would have the military strength for an invasion of a real threat like Iran. Since Republicans are putting the War in Iraq on a credit I don't see how massive debt accumulation is in the interest of the nation. Please clarify these things for me ted. Maybe I missed something when it comes to identifying nations trying to develop nuclear weapons. Do you think Iran is developing nuclear weapons? It sure looks that way doesn't it? It looks like North Korea is increasing their nuclear capabilities as well. How Republicans miss those two countries, and why do you think such obvious threats were missed?
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I know there are some practical liberals, but they are just so damn quiet. They are all being drowned out by the insanity.

BUSH EQUALS HITLER!!!
Ted said it, not me. Speaking of which, would ted vote for Hitler? He was a social conservative.
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I dunno rieno, I would have voted for bush, aparently that EQUALS hitler. So I guess you have your answer. only because democrats have piss poor leadership.

I don't have a time machine, i wish i did but i don't. So we are in Iraq, now i believe its our duty to fix it. I don't think bush should pull out till the iraqi government says so. "republican" handling of Nkorea has been absolutely flawless in my view, NK is isolated has sanctions, its surrounded. Just watch weapons shipments in and out, and financially sufficate it. Much better alternative to war.

Iran is a goofy country, there are many people in iran who are pro american, leadership is losing support. So I would just wait iran out as well. like the bush administration is doing. Whether or not we should have direct talks is a matter of debate that i don't know the answer too.

as far as massive debt goes, its always been there. Yes the war is expensive.. thats no reason to pull out tho. it will be more expensive to us in the long run if we do in my oppinion. Ill give bush till the end of his presidency to fix the problem. I hope he does.
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What exactly are you conserving? It's not the enviornment. It's not our freedoms considering insistence from Bush that he has the authority to issue warrantless wiretaps and read our mail without warrants. It's not the integrity of our borders considering your lackadaisical approach. For the life of me I can't figure out why you call yourselves "conservatives".
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conservative |k?n?s?rv?tiv; -v??tiv| adjective
holding to traditional attitudes and values and cautious about change or innovation, typically in relation to politics or religion.
• (of dress or taste) sober and conventional : a conservative suit.
• (of an estimate) purposely low for the sake of caution : the film was not cheap—$30,000 is a conservative estimate.
• (of surgery or medical treatment) intended to control rather than eliminate a condition, with existing tissue preserved as far as possible.
• ( Conservative) of or relating to the Conservative Party of Great Britain or a similar party in another country.

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a person who is averse to change and holds to traditional values and attitudes, typically in relation to politics.
• ( Conservative) a supporter or member of the Conservative Party of Great Britain or a similar party in another country.

... so for me, conservative means "holding to traditional attitudes and values." I like the views of the founding fathers on freedom and liberty and small government.

Where it says "averse to change," this could also apply to any democrat who is upset that welfare was reformed or taxes were reduced (or put in what "change" you are aware of that upset a dem).

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lol its funny how you are more offended by my criticism of liberals then of the idea that the republicans want to reinstate slavery. I find that my criticism is relatively mild comparatively.

I have absolutely no clue as to what the eff "slavery" has to do with squat on this thread. Offended? You overrate the weight of your opinion, young man. You'll need to grow a whole lot more whiskers before you even reach the level of annoying me.

And speaking of annoying, why is it that a Toughguy of your age is sitting on his ass typing about how much of a "patriot" he is, instead of heading down to the recruiters office? Haven't you heard? Ol' Pissant needs some cannon fodder to shore up his image. Or are you just another chickenhawk, all mouth and no balls?

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Sure when I talk about liberals, I am talking about the odd ball leftists in this room rather then anywhere else mostly and anyone else that can't articulate themselves beyond "bush halibutorn cheney rove neo cons are all evil and only care about oil bla bla bla". Also koolaid is awesome I dont know why everyones always talking about it in such a negative light
Pot meet kettle.

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I may well join the army when i am done school.

Whats wrong with patriotism? To me the USA is our niehboors friends relatives history and our way of life and disposition. Thats what the country is to me. Are you saying I don't have a right to be proud? Or I should not be concerned about our well being?
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I may well join the army when i am done school.

Whats wrong with patriotism? To me the USA is our niehboors friends relatives history and our way of life and disposition. Thats what the country is to me. Are you saying I don't have a right to be proud? Or I should not be concerned about our well being?
Did I say there was something wrong with patriotism? Did I imply there was? You aren't dealing with a chump here, ted, putting words in my mouth won't work. I'll just call you on it. Since it went over you're head, I'll try and simplify it for you. Talk is cheap, action takes courage.

Now I realise that it might not be very "convenient" to you to have to actually do more than be a keyboard commando right now. That pretty much sums up Tough Guys like you, Bush, Cheney, et al. Run your mouth and then hide when it's time to back up the words. Get back to me when you've done a tour as a grunt and actually been in the middle of it, 'cuz till then, Tough Guy, you're just like The Pissant: All hat and no cattle.
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I guess we should start cloning people before china does. lol
Why would china need to clone people? there are over a billion chinese. They have 1/6th of the entire population of the planet in thier borders.
It was just an example of how conservative stand to stunt progress with archaic belief systems. More realistically: the stem cell issue. Dont let this thread turn into a debate over stem cells, but conservatives were such cry-babies over a freaking cell that it stigmatised people like Micheal J. Fox as evil people willing to kill babies for their health.
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I support wire tapping of people from arab countries calling the us.
Do Arabs scare you this much?
This scares me that weve got people so frightened by Arabs, they support these excessive means.
Cmon. Be a man.
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Do you think you can make generalized statements about the beliefs of every Republican based on some limited sampling?

Oh, wait, you do it every day.

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It's disappointing to me that you don't answer questions or engage in dialogue, you sort of dive in, snipe, and depart. I've seen this on several threads and it's neither polite nor a very good example from a moderator.
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der Who said I was against stem cell research? I certainly did not. I am for stem cell research, well realistically i don't give a damn about stem cell research all i care about is winning the war. Secondly wire tapping calls from arab countries going here is just a precaution. I am not afraid of arabs, I am not even afraid of muslim extremists. I just don't want them to gloat after a successful terrorist attack on the usa.
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