Originally Posted by metalted

When liberals don't denounce what I view as stupidity, I view that as them agreeing with the insanity that is the radical left. If you set out to denounce all the stupidity being put out by all the various "radical" groups so that people don't think you agree with it, you will be too busy to do anything useful with your life.



All because you all agree on one thing, your hatred of Bush.

Originally Posted by crnadan

I'm a conservative.

I love the environment and would like to preserve it but I am not obsessed about it like some extremists. I want to travel later on in life and I would like to see forrests, parks, mountains, trails, rivers, and other naturally beautiful areas.

I am against abortion except if the mothers life is in danger, or she was raped plus other special circumstances.

I still don't know about global warming.

I am against gay marriage. In fact I am against the government controlling marriage and the bedroom. I would prefer that there be some kind of civil unions between gay people and even heterosexuals, if those heterosexuals are not Christian or similar. Marriage was originally only a religous institution right?

I support capitalism but not 100% capitalism. I mean to say that there needs to be controls set by the government similar to what our economy is like today.

I am for stem cell research.

I am a Christian.

I want a large military like we have now and I think it should stay that way for a long time until certain things change.

I am against amnesty. The govt needs to either enforce current anti illegal immigration laws or build a complete wall protecting our borders.

I am against complete universal healthcare for all. I think covering basic healthcare for everyone would be fine but other things the patient should try to pay for. But children and other cases of people should have healthcare provider fully.

I think many homeless people need a break but I also know that many of them are lazy, drunks, drug addicts, etc... and so it is hard to decide how to help them. If I know that a certain homeless person has the ability to work and can do it without a doubt and live a better life without being hungry I will not help that person if they choose not to work. They have the right to life and death and I have the right not to help that person. I just wanted to throw out a quick scenario to describe how I think about that.

And I don't feel like writing anymore because I'm tired and need to get some sleep. I just wanted to let you see what some of "my" conservative values are.

Originally Posted by MareTranquility

More than you (see posts 33, 34, 35) and all of my posts have been germane and polite.

Originally Posted by MattLarson

Actually, sir, your post to me was quite rude and condescending, in addition to being directed at me as a person, and not the topic of the thread.

You might be surprised to learn that I, as a conservative:

- Oppose warrantless wiretaps and detention without habeas corpus
- Support stem cell research
- Support abortion rights
- Support gay marriage
- Am pro-environment

These are a few of the positions I hold, and which I have clearly stated in many posts on the forum.

But the OP is not, IMHO, seeking this sort of information. The post is simply an attempt to categorize every Republican into narrow little boxes of the OP's crafting.

It's logically flawed at best.

Sorry if pointing that out failed to meet your standards.

Matt

Originally Posted by MareTranquility

Ethnocentrism:1 : a habitual disposition to judge foreign peoples or groups by the standards and practices of one's own culture or ethnic group <this is the more usual form that ethnocentrism takes ... -- a gentle insistence on the good qualities of one's own group -- M.J.Herskovits>
2 : a tendency toward viewing alien cultures with disfavor and a resulting sense of inherent superiority <the ethnocentrism of national groups ... causes them to regard their culture as superior to that of all other nations...

From the Merriam Webster Unabridged Dictionary

As far as 10 to 1 revenge, we don't even know if the people we are killing are guilty. Punishing the people who did the deed may be considered justice, but killing 10 times as many with little regard for guilt or innocence is neither Conservative nor Liberal, it's stupid.

Originally Posted by MareTranquility

As you go through life you will find that making sweeping generalizations about huge groups of people you don't know will impede your intellectual development and make you sound like a fool.

Originally Posted by metalted

otherwise you will all collectively get the blame for being cowards. Get used to it.

Originally Posted by kramer

Do environmentalists scare you this much?
This scares me that weve got people so frightened by environmentalists, they support excessive regulations (while exempting developing countries including giant communist China from CO2 regulations).
Cmon. Be a man.

Kramer

Originally Posted by metalted

When liberals don't denounce what I view as stupidity, I view that as them agreeing with the insanity that is the radical left. All because you all agree on one thing, your hatred of Bush.

Originally Posted by reino

Are you referring to people who question the motives of Bush? If you remember many right-wingers did just that. People who questioned Bush' motives were more or less referred to as cowards.

Originally Posted by metalted

OK If I view my country with favor, then obviously I cant view other countries with equal favor, hence i am a bigot. This is your arguement? No, no, no, this was a response to your question, "What's wrong with patriotism?" Too often partriotism runs wild and other people are devalued to the point where their welfare becomes irrelevant.

Well I would rather be a bigot then a coward. But this is dumb anyway because I don't view any human better then any other, I view the american way of life and disposition as better for the most part.

In all wars the innocent will die. no matter how just the war is. Unfortunantly in the case of Iraq all dead, the bad guys and the good guys regardless how they die or who kills them get blamed on the american soldiers. thats where the 600,000 dead number come from. even though I don't find that number to be completely accurate.

Originally Posted by metalted

you are on this website, how hard would have it to say "rieno that was uncalled for," referring to the comment of republicans wanting slavery. (after all werent the republicans the ones that ended it?)

Its not about "going through life." its about speaking up on this website damn it. Its about making an effort to find common ground everyonce in awhile. otherwise you will all collectively get the blame for being cowards. Get used to it.

Originally Posted by Johnny K

So Ted,

Get down to that recruiter's office today? We need your big, strong, tough talkin', Patriotic self over in Eyerack, so's you can "fight 'em over there, so we don't have to fight 'em over here."

And maybe you can bring some of the boys from the Young Republicans Club from your school with you! You can tell 'em it's kind of like those video games they stay up for days playing, 'cept the weather's warmer!