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Administrators at North Newton High School in Newton, Mass., have held a seminar for students that explained how to know they are homosexual, but banned parents from attending.

"It's absolutely insane," parent Brian Camenker, who also is chief of the Mass Resistance organization, said. "I met with the principal. She told me no parents are allowed. She said only by invitation. I asked, 'Can I be invited.' She said, 'No.'"

The event, called "ToBeGlad Day," was the school's "Transgender Bisexual Gay Lesbian Awareness Day," and students were given a pamphlet that explains what it means to be "gay," tells students how they are supposed to know if they are "gay," and responds to the question, "Will I ever have sex?"

News of the event comes just a day after WND reported on a case at Deerfield High School in Deerfield, Ill., where school officials ordered their 14-year-old freshman class into a "gay" indoctrination seminar, after having them sign a confidentiality agreement promising not to tell their parents.

"This is very, very scary stuff," Camenker said. "The pamphlet also lists places kids can go to meet homosexuals. How would something like this affect a kid who might be going through a confused and vulnerable time in his life? Well … the school isn't interested in what YOU think."


North Newton High Principal Jen Price

The Newton principal, Jennifer Price, didn't return a message WND left seeking a comment on the event.

But Camenker said it supports his argument for the state's Parents Rights Bill, S2063, which would toughen the state's parental notification requirements, an issue he's urging state lawmakers to act on as soon as possible.

He said the information about the brochure, a copy of which is available at the Mass Resistance Website, already has been e-mailed to each member of the Massachusetts Legislature.

"We've gotten a reaction from representatives who have gotten calls," he said. "At least one is angry at us for the vehemence of the call [the representative got from a constituent]. I explained I didn't tell people to be rude."

"But if this is going on in public schools, you can't be surprised [if people are upset]," he said.

"It's absolutely insane."

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Theyre shouldnt be allowing gays in a public school.I bet the Principal is Gay too.This is why GOD is punishing us with Hurricanes.Earthquakes and tornadoes because were losing our morality.
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Theyre shouldnt be allowing gays in a public school.I bet the Principal is Gay too.This is why GOD is punishing us with Hurricanes.Earthquakes and tornadoes because were losing our morality.
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Theyre shouldnt be allowing gays in a public school.I bet the Principal is Gay too.This is why GOD is punishing us with Hurricanes.Earthquakes and tornadoes because were losing our morality.
And you complain about Sharia law? Don't you think that God is also punishing us for not beating rape victims more severely?
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Good for you, SteveOx, you have posted another unsubstantiated piece of christian nonsense. Your source is a relgious-crazy site and they probably made up the whole thing.

It's kind of fun though to see you getting hysterical about something. Like Mad Michael said, Keep on ranting and raving, just try not to drool on the carpet (paraphrased).
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Administrators at North Newton High School in Newton, Mass., have held a seminar for students that explained how to know they are homosexual, but banned parents from attending.
Considering the way that many parents react to their children being gay is it no wonder that groups don't want parents present. A friend from long ago was locked into her bedroom for months when her parents discovered she was a lesbian.
I can't recall how many times I have heard people say they would disown their children because they were gay. I have even heard macho men state they would kill their children if they were gay.

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Re: Principal bans parents from pro-'gay' seminar

Parents behave in strange ways around homosexuality and transsexuality since many of them don't know any more about it than Hank does. I know of a male to female transsexual person who, during her childhood, was beaten by her father for not being much of a man and then was raped by him because she behaved so much like a girl. It only makes sense for children to have a secure place to find out about their sexuality--the people who are so unhappy about this opportunity being available to their children are the very ones who make it a necessity.
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Administrators at North Newton High School in Newton, Mass., have held a seminar for students that explained how to know they are homosexual, but banned parents from attending.
Greetings and Felicitations,

Considering the way that many parents react to their children being gay is it no wonder that groups don't want parents present. A friend from long ago was locked into her bedroom for months when her parents discovered she was a lesbian.
I can't recall how many times I have heard people say they would disown their children because they were gay. I have even heard macho men state they would kill their children if they were gay.

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I believe the point is normal parents knowing actual percentages vs. an agenda teaching against there religious freedoms. The percentage comparison is like the schools preparing you to go blind. It wouldn’t be to much to ask to keep the education to math, geography ect considering the conflict.
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It wouldn’t be to much to ask to keep the education to math, geography ect considering the conflict.
Where would you prefer a child get the information about being gay? From the local park? If the parents are unwilling to deal with the homosexuality of a child then where can a possibly gay child turn?

A child that thinks they might be gay are already turning against the religious beliefs of their children. Despite the best wishes of some there is not a religion in existence that says homosexuality is valid. Even the Buddha was against it. For those interested there are rules against monks tickling each other based on this possibility. Even my beloved Wiccan friends have issues with homosexuality.

In short, I would prefer that the school teach the children because they will, at least, have some idea about the facts and about safe sex. The parents are just as likely to have them sent off to a conversion camp for homosexuals.

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I believe the point is normal parents knowing actual percentages vs. an agenda teaching against there religious freedoms. The percentage comparison is like the schools preparing you to go blind. It wouldn’t be to much to ask to keep the education to math, geography ect considering the conflict.
Cripes Hank,

Just what the Hell is "normal?" You? Ranting diatribes by hateful, homophobic bigots are "normal?" Well pal, if they are, I'll take "different."
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I believe the point is normal parents knowing actual percentages vs. an agenda teaching against there religious freedoms. The percentage comparison is like the schools preparing you to go blind. It wouldn’t be to much to ask to keep the education to math, geography ect considering the conflict.
Greetings and Felicitations,

Where would you prefer a child get the information about being gay? From the local park? If the parents are unwilling to deal with the homosexuality of a child then where can a possibly gay child turn?
Well hello to you and may you live long and prosper.
Again, there is a whole picture that needs to be considered.
It’s not so much of where to turn for advice, that option is plentiful. It’s a matter of decision making based on “all factors” vs. “single focus at all cost” and ramifications.
You cannot base “decisions effecting all” on single focus. Schools choosing this subject over say! The percentage of people who will have to deal with being blind, poor, lonely, ugly ect. All of a much larger % of the population and of more serious a magnitude then sexual urges…
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A child that thinks they might be gay are already turning against the religious beliefs of their children. Despite the best wishes of some there is not a religion in existence that says homosexuality is valid. Even the Buddha was against it. For those interested there are rules against monks tickling each other based on this possibility. Even my beloved Wiccan friends have issues with homosexuality.
That’s why before Nam era activist began normalization movements, it was considered a closet fetish (Thus the term “coming out of the closet.”). It was not picked as an anti-establisnment movment because thise empowered by it have concerns of helping peopl.
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In short, I would prefer that the school teach the children because they will, at least, have some idea about the facts and about safe sex. The parents are just as likely to have them sent off to a conversion camp for homosexuals.

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But you are not the only ones effected by these decisions. Being in decision making capacity dictates certain decision making capabilities and techniques. Them dealing with there sexual urges is a personal thing. The schools disenfranchising 97% of there assemblage’s parental guidance is appalling.
(Please keep in mind that only a very few believe this to be more then a sexual deviation. Knowing this can aid on avoiding un-settling mind conditioning and plants of hate, ignorance, intolerance and bigotry used to stir up the hornets nest. So to speak. )
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Good for you, SteveOx, you have posted another unsubstantiated piece of christian nonsense. Your source is a relgious-crazy site and they probably made up the whole thing.
Here’s another: ninth-graders are required to attend a panel discussion led by the Gay-Straight Alliance Network. The panel features homosexuals telling students about their sexual experiences. Effort to hide homosexual indoctrination uncovered in IL school (OneNewsNow.com)
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"It's absolutely insane."
You think that’s insane?: K-8 charter school marching its students under the school's banner in this summer's "San Diego LGBT Pride" parade.

"These gay pride parades are full of triple-X pornography, male strippers, male escorts," Hartline notes. "It's just a very filthy, immoral event; and the idea that any school would march little children in the middle of that parade for any reason is really just more than the average person, whether they be Christian or not, can contemplate."
And yet, the pro-family advocate points out, San Diego Cooperative Charter School has apparently been participating in this homosexual pride event for a number of years. "It's something that they're proud of," he says. According to San Diego Cooperative's principal, Wendy Ranck-Buhr, marching the children in the parade is part of the school's "social curriculum."
: Outrage over San Diego school's involvement in 'gay pride' parade (OneNewsNow.com)
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First off my kids will be attending a private Christian school so this wouldn't happen......BUT....If the school my kid went to did this I would pull them out in a heart beat.

I, as a parent, have rights. This issue is something the parents should be teaching their kids not the schools. And if the school did decide to teach this I should have the right to Chaparone the event.


The second issue is what Steveox wrote: "Theyre shouldnt be allowing gays in a public school.I bet the Principal is Gay too.This is why GOD is punishing us with Hurricanes.Earthquakes and tornadoes because were losing our morality."

1) Gays should be allowed to attend school. And they should have equal rights to everyone else. As of now they have more rights than I do. If they are going to teach about how to know if you are gay then they should teach how to know if you are straight. Equality.

2) Every single person has a free will and will be judged on that free will when their life ends. God doesn't sit above and cause Hurricanes and worldly disasters because of that free will. The reason why it appears as if immoral and unethical people always seem to get away with their deeds is because the payback will coime 10 fold sometime in the future. More likely from some other immoral or unethical person not God.


The final comment I have is regarding the answer to Will I ever have sex? Yes you will....see that big hairy thing with a crack down the middle and poop around the rim? Thats what you will have sex with. ....Shudders...
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