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Old 03-19-2007
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I liked where I stayed. It was in the shopping district and close to everything I ll stay there again when I go back in April.
If you get the opportunity you should visit Matonge, the Zairese quarter, or rather Congolese again these days. Excellent food, fun people, great music.... It's in the south in the area called Ixelles (Elsene in Dutch).
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I know they were not Arab I d say they were Morrocans but as I am sure you know yourself everyone calls them Arab (in France anyway )
My best friend is from Algeria so I knowa bit about their culture (I just didn t think anyone would catch me out here for being politicly incorrect )
She goes mad when people call her Arab but shes now used to it.

I would have said "magreib" if I was speaking French (I assume you speak French) I used to give out to French who called them Arabs. I suppose the English translation for Magreib is North African I think. But to me African normally means black (even though its not the case ie South Africa). Thats why I said Arab as I thought people would understand that better.

I also have had similar problems in Italy and Spain. I think the problem is they are not one bit shy. I think it is a real med thing.
It wasn't political correctness, it's simply wrong Morocco is about 2000 km distant from the Arab peninsula. Would you call a Irishman a Greek ?
Maghreb appears to be in use in English. At least Wiki has it. The Oxford English Dictionary doesn't.
Anyway, I'm sorry you got a bad impression of Brussels. It's not my favourite Belgian city either. Ghent is.

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Evidemment, on a peu de choix en Belgique étant donné que Paris n'est qu'une heure vers le sud. C'est le même pour Anglais avec Londres une heure vers l'ouest et Allemand avec l'Allemagne une heure vers l'est. Heureusement on a Amsterdam une heure vers le nord.

(for Francophobic readers -and according to the rules- : "Sure, we have little choice in Belgium with Paris an hour away to the south. It's the same for English with London an hour away to the west and German with Germany an hour to the east. Luckily we have Amsterdam an hour to the north").
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Re: What kind of girls?

Can I just nip in with a little bit of off-thread?

Some years ago I was in Brussels for a day out, I'd been staying in Genval in southern Belgium which means of course it's in the Walloon, French-speaking region.

I must admit to have spent a few hours going through the various beers on offer (superb) and wandered back to Gare Central (I think it was), realising I should get the train back to Genval. Trouble was it was rush hour. I thought I'd give it a miss.

So I wandered up to a bar and thought I'd see if there were any beers I missed out on before (there were several so I tried them as well). Anyway I was a bit - um - merry but also confused, I couldn't work out which platform I needed to be on to get back to Genval.

Happily I remembered enough and worked out that all the Flemish-speaking people over that side of the platform must have been going north so the French-speaking people on this side of the platform must be going south. Sure enough I found the right train.

And I still had enough time to visit another bar in Genval before eventually getting to bed, full as a boot and happy as a sandboy.
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Can I just nip in with a little bit of off-thread?

Some years ago I was in Brussels for a day out, I'd been staying in Genval in southern Belgium which means of course it's in the Walloon, French-speaking region.

I must admit to have spent a few hours going through the various beers on offer (superb) and wandered back to Gare Central (I think it was), realising I should get the train back to Genval. Trouble was it was rush hour. I thought I'd give it a miss.

So I wandered up to a bar and thought I'd see if there were any beers I missed out on before (there were several so I tried them as well). Anyway I was a bit - um - merry but also confused, I couldn't work out which platform I needed to be on to get back to Genval.

Happily I remembered enough and worked out that all the Flemish-speaking people over that side of the platform must have been going north so the French-speaking people on this side of the platform must be going south. Sure enough I found the right train.

And I still had enough time to visit another bar in Genval before eventually getting to bed, full as a boot and happy as a sandboy.
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Great story and excellent observation, especially in such dire conditions
As for the beers, you could've been busy quite a while as there are at least 300 regional beers (list (in Dutch) here : http://users.skynet.be/triplebee/bier/biertjes.html). Internationally known beers such as Stella Artois are among the most harmless and common ones. I assure you you wouldn't drink five 'Westmalle 12' in a row.
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Maghreb appears to be in use in English. At least Wiki has it. The Oxford English Dictionary doesn't.
Anyway, I'm sorry you got a bad impression of Brussels. It's not my favourite Belgian city either.
I never heard of magreb but it probably is in the dictionary. As far as I know its not widely used. North African or Arab is whats generally termed for the magreibs. People call them arab because they speak arabic and have similar customs. My Algerian friend is Berber in origins but try explaining that to a french person (from my experiance they don t really care). I know my Belgian calls them arab under a collective term as well (ie Turks, Morrocans, Algerians)

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If you get the opportunity you should visit Matonge, the Zairese quarter, or rather Congolese again these days. Excellent food, fun people, great music.... It's in the south in the area called Ixelles (Elsene in Dutch).
I was there on a meeting. Its nice area. I didn t dislike Brussels but the men freaked me out. I travelled on my own and next time I ll be meeting up with friends I made there so I ll feel more secure.
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I steered clear of the wicked looking beers WOI
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I recently visited Belgium for a meeting. I decided to make a weekend out of it (why not?) On Saturday I went out with my 2 friends.
To my astonishment groups of men in cars (Audi BMW) started pulling up and asking us to go with them, commented on our clothes, questioning our ability in the sack (to put it in polite terms). Its a pity I m fluent in French as I really didn t need to hear how vulgar they were being.
These men were mainly of Arab origins though there was a few French cars. Some men were even in their 30's how sad is that? That was their idea of a night out. We are all blonde so maybe that doesn t help but this happened with every girl.
My question is did their pulling technique ( In American terms I think its hitting on or in otherwords their ability to get a girl to go out with them ) ever work on any girl?

It must have happened once as now so many of them do it. Who goes in a car with men like these (apart from prostitutes) ? In that case why don t they go to the red light district for that?
Is this really an acceptable way of finding a lady? Does this happen anywhere else? Does it work?
It is no acceptable way, but it happens everywhere and it seems to work.
It is mainly the new founded Arab subculture and the 'hanger-on effect', it's pretty cool isn't it?
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It is mainly the new founded Arab subculture and the 'hanger-on effect', it's pretty cool isn't it?
What do you mean?
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What do you mean?
Mainly Turks, second or third generation of emigrants, are fairly unknown for well performed integration and 'proper' behavior
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Mainly Turks, second or third generation of emigrants, are fairly unknown for well performed integration and 'proper' behavior
That's a gross generalization, and a biased statement, and obviously not meant to be taken seriously.
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What kind of girls go for this shit? All kinds. Even smart girls go for morons. That's the wonderful mystery of it all. Disgusting men who wear their desperation on their sleeves will talk to a pack of girls like the one mentioned by the OP, and they'll get you even if they don't "get" you. Girls will spend the better part of an entire night out duking it out with idiots instead of sifting through the weasels and engaging with more interesting men.

For instance, a girl will get hit on by some machismo-oozing guy who can't put an original thought of his own together, and what will some girls do? They'll engage the guy. "Does that line every work?". They'll stick around and exchange barbs with men who are "lower" than them, to get their kicks, or because they don't really have the confidence themselves to break away from morons and meet more interesting men. Which leads us to why so many women, when asked about what they're looking for in a guy will say, "I want a guy whose confident but not arrogant", "I want a guy who says all the right things", "I want a guy who can make me laugh", "I want a guy who knows when to be serious, and when not to be". Those thoughts aren't really indicative of what a woman really wants; it actually is expressing what she lacks in herself and is projecting out onto other people.

I'm getting heady now. Sorry. I just wanted to say, if you're really sick of getting approached by idiots, than confront them head on, tell them you're not interested, ignore them, go somewhere else. You're only imprisonned by your own self. No excuses for wasting your night with losers.
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I should point out that I saw a few French cars and guys doing this too.

Its hard to get away from someone when they are following you in a car. But as I said at least i was with some girls on the Saturday. I d say most women on their own would be freaked out by this kind of behaviour. But from my experience the best thing to do is ignore these kind of men.
However I just can t believe this pulling technique could have worked even once.
What does the girl do? Jump in a car with a load of strange men? I honestly can t believe that ever happened
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I should point out that I saw a few French cars and guys doing this too.

Its hard to get away from someone when they are following you in a car. But as I said at least i was with some girls on the Saturday. I d say most women on their own would be freaked out by this kind of behaviour. But from my experience the best thing to do is ignore these kind of men.
However I just can t believe this pulling technique could have worked even once.
What does the girl do? Jump in a car with a load of strange men? I honestly can t believe that ever happened


A girls might not, erm, do this kind of stuff. A slut would
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It's a modern world thing. Our methods in trying to find a mate are influenced by the female (and male) stereotypes represented in the media, literature and advertising. Of course real women (and men) don't fit those stereotypes and we fail dismally.
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