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Old 03-18-2007
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It's Time for Blacks to Get Over Slavery

Written by Paotie
Published March 16, 2007

Syndicated columnist Walter E. Williams pouts and complains that calls for the Virginia legislation to issue decrees of apologies for slavery fall far short. In fact, he goes the extra mile and suggests that whites owe blacks something. He seems to suggest that each and every white person should resolve black problems in Virginia – as if blacks themselves are unable to do anything.

Mr. Williams does everything but admit accountability for himself or blacks in Virginia. Instead, he criticizes white legislators in Virginia for not appeasing his requirements for an apologetic legislative mandate; and then squarely lays the blame on whites for whatever societal ills blacks in Virginia seem to have, ranging from unemployment to murder.

Then, in a brilliant display of hypocritical meandering, Mr. Williams issues what could easily be labeled as “poor,” “pathetic,” and “insensitive” regret for the murder of six million Jews; untold millions of Russians; for the murder of 45 million Chinese; for the Khmer Rouge’s massive genocide programs; and the more recent programs of genocide in Uganda (though he conspicuously fails to mention Bosnia – almost all the victims were whites). Quite conveniently, Mr. Williams also attempts to portray the plight of blacks in Virginia to be on par with these millions of victims.

The problem Mr. Williams has is the fact that slavery (in the context he discusses) happened more than 100 years ago, and in his futile attempt to link past with present, he tries to develop a correlation as to why blacks in Virginia suffer from various societal ailments. To put it simply, Mr. Williams asks – no, demands – that modern sufferings of black people must be cured by whites, if only because once upon a time, black people were slaves in Virginia, and that any murder which occurs in Virginia in 2007 will be the direct result of slavery in the 1800s.

I got news for Mr. Williams: Get over it, already.

I’m not about to deny that blacks in this country still have some difficulties in making inroads towards achieving the American Dream, whatever that may be. There are always pockets of people who are prejudiced against other people, if only because of skin color, cultural differences, or even politically philosophical differences. And unfortunately, the evil perpetuated by racism continues, even in today’s increasingly liberal society, and it seems to be an ingrained aspect of American life.

It's Time for Blacks to Get Over Slavery @ Blogcritics.org

Its time for them to get over with history that happend 150 years ago. State of Georgia doesnt have to apologize to blacks about the civil war role.and State of Mississppi doesnt have to remove the confederate flag of the state capitol nether.And Both OBAMA and Rev Al Sharpton to stop claiming that their great great grandfathers were owned by whites. GET OVER IT!!

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Old 03-18-2007
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Re: It's Time for Blacks to Get Over Slavery

"I got news for Mr. Williams: Get over it, already."

Blacks as a race will never "get over it." NEVER. Claiming a history of slavery and using that as an excuse to receive White-tax-based gratuities has been scheme that's worked for over 40 years now - since 1964. It's like a vein of gold that's still loaded - in their eyes. As long as it pays off, they're going to keep tappin' it. Why not?
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Re: It's Time for Blacks to Get Over Slavery

As another poster pointed out in another thread, most African-Americans don't bother themselves with this apology stuff. They're trying to make it in this world, today, and deal with the reality of today rather than worrying about things that happened over 100 years ago. To me, that says a lot.
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Re: It's Time for Blacks to Get Over Slavery

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Written by Paotie
Published March 16, 2007

Syndicated columnist Walter E. Williams pouts and complains that calls for the Virginia legislation to issue decrees of apologies for slavery fall far short. In fact, he goes the extra mile and suggests that whites owe blacks something. He seems to suggest that each and every white person should resolve black problems in Virginia – as if blacks themselves are unable to do anything.

Mr. Williams does everything but admit accountability for himself or blacks in Virginia. Instead, he criticizes white legislators in Virginia for not appeasing his requirements for an apologetic legislative mandate; and then squarely lays the blame on whites for whatever societal ills blacks in Virginia seem to have, ranging from unemployment to murder.

Then, in a brilliant display of hypocritical meandering, Mr. Williams issues what could easily be labeled as “poor,” “pathetic,” and “insensitive” regret for the murder of six million Jews; untold millions of Russians; for the murder of 45 million Chinese; for the Khmer Rouge’s massive genocide programs; and the more recent programs of genocide in Uganda (though he conspicuously fails to mention Bosnia – almost all the victims were whites). Quite conveniently, Mr. Williams also attempts to portray the plight of blacks in Virginia to be on par with these millions of victims.

The problem Mr. Williams has is the fact that slavery (in the context he discusses) happened more than 100 years ago, and in his futile attempt to link past with present, he tries to develop a correlation as to why blacks in Virginia suffer from various societal ailments. To put it simply, Mr. Williams asks – no, demands – that modern sufferings of black people must be cured by whites, if only because once upon a time, black people were slaves in Virginia, and that any murder which occurs in Virginia in 2007 will be the direct result of slavery in the 1800s.

I got news for Mr. Williams: Get over it, already.

I’m not about to deny that blacks in this country still have some difficulties in making inroads towards achieving the American Dream, whatever that may be. There are always pockets of people who are prejudiced against other people, if only because of skin color, cultural differences, or even politically philosophical differences. And unfortunately, the evil perpetuated by racism continues, even in today’s increasingly liberal society, and it seems to be an ingrained aspect of American life.

It's Time for Blacks to Get Over Slavery @ Blogcritics.org

Its time for them to get over with history that happend 150 years ago. State of Georgia doesnt have to apologize to blacks about the civil war role.and State of Mississppi doesnt have to remove the confederate flag of the state capitol nether.And Both OBAMA and Rev Al Sharpton to stop claiming that their great great grandfathers were owned by whites. GET OVER IT!!

If this flag Offends you

Then you dont know your history
Why don't you read Walter Williams article before commenting on the link you posted. I think it's a spoof.

Here's the link to the article by Williams.
http://www.gmu.edu/departments/econo...7/regrets.html

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Re: It's Time for Blacks to Get Over Slavery

The only support for this is with companies that exist to this day, that have a history of black slavery.
In other words, they have used slaves to make it through.
They exist today, so it would not hurt to acknowledge the sacrifice blacks were forced to make.
This, i believe, is what the issue with reparations was about.
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Its time for them to get over with history that happend 150 years ago. State of Georgia doesnt have to apologize to blacks about the civil war role.and State of Mississppi doesnt have to remove the confederate flag of the state capitol nether.And Both OBAMA and Rev Al Sharpton to stop claiming that their great great grandfathers were owned by whites. GET OVER IT!!
Yes slavery ended 150 years ago. But the effects have been long lasting and it runs deeper than slavery. What about segregation in the 1960's? Mississippi, Alabama and Georgia, racist police, Klan meetings and terrorist acts on black people. The problems that Black people have today didn t simply dissapear with the abolition of slavery. Remember there are still people who lived in the 60's and experienced racism and segration. Can they be expected get over it like that? People are still alive who remember the arrest of Rosa Parks.
I reckon it will be the next few generations who will get over it.

Like Germany for example. This generation of Germans are still feeling guilty for what happened in their grandparents generation, Sure you can say its a long time ago and German misdeeds (to put it mildly) are forgiven and put behind us but an elderly jewish lady will remember her parents being killed or being sent away, someone from France will remember her town being bombed by Germans and people being killed. Someone from Czech will remember Germans marching and taking over whilst the rest of Europe allowed this to happen.

These kind of traumatic events take time to heal. It can t be fixed in a certain period of time.

I don t agree with people still going on about slavery and getting repartions but I think it runs deeper than just this alone.
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Slavery has not been abolished theres another name for it its called EMPLOYEE. When you go to work your boss owns you until its time for you to go home.
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Slavery has not been abolished theres another name for it its called EMPLOYEE. When you go to work your boss owns you until its time for you to go home.
Well, you could always quit. Slaves didn't really have that option.
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Slavery has not been abolished theres another name for it its called EMPLOYEE.
Hmm... If I may, I would venture to say that your "employer" is actually some kind of huckster that has convinced you that it is your 'job' to work in his chemical lab without pay. Might I suggest leaving there and not returning? When you have an actual job, money is exchanged for services.
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Written by Paotie
Published March 16, 2007

Syndicated columnist Walter E. Williams pouts and complains that calls for the Virginia legislation to issue decrees of apologies for slavery fall far short. In fact, he goes the extra mile and suggests that whites owe blacks something. He seems to suggest that each and every white person should resolve black problems in Virginia – as if blacks themselves are unable to do anything.

Mr. Williams does everything but admit accountability for himself or blacks in Virginia. Instead, he criticizes white legislators in Virginia for not appeasing his requirements for an apologetic legislative mandate; and then squarely lays the blame on whites for whatever societal ills blacks in Virginia seem to have, ranging from unemployment to murder.

Then, in a brilliant display of hypocritical meandering, Mr. Williams issues what could easily be labeled as “poor,” “pathetic,” and “insensitive” regret for the murder of six million Jews; untold millions of Russians; for the murder of 45 million Chinese; for the Khmer Rouge’s massive genocide programs; and the more recent programs of genocide in Uganda (though he conspicuously fails to mention Bosnia – almost all the victims were whites). Quite conveniently, Mr. Williams also attempts to portray the plight of blacks in Virginia to be on par with these millions of victims.

The problem Mr. Williams has is the fact that slavery (in the context he discusses) happened more than 100 years ago, and in his futile attempt to link past with present, he tries to develop a correlation as to why blacks in Virginia suffer from various societal ailments. To put it simply, Mr. Williams asks – no, demands – that modern sufferings of black people must be cured by whites, if only because once upon a time, black people were slaves in Virginia, and that any murder which occurs in Virginia in 2007 will be the direct result of slavery in the 1800s.

I got news for Mr. Williams: Get over it, already.

I’m not about to deny that blacks in this country still have some difficulties in making inroads towards achieving the American Dream, whatever that may be. There are always pockets of people who are prejudiced against other people, if only because of skin color, cultural differences, or even politically philosophical differences. And unfortunately, the evil perpetuated by racism continues, even in today’s increasingly liberal society, and it seems to be an ingrained aspect of American life.

It's Time for Blacks to Get Over Slavery @ Blogcritics.org

Its time for them to get over with history that happend 150 years ago. State of Georgia doesnt have to apologize to blacks about the civil war role.and State of Mississppi doesnt have to remove the confederate flag of the state capitol nether.And Both OBAMA and Rev Al Sharpton to stop claiming that their great great grandfathers were owned by whites. GET OVER IT!!

If this flag Offends you

Then you dont know your history
IMHO, For once you are on the right side of an issue even tho I don't think you know why it's right.

No one involved with slavery in this country, on either side is still alive, and none of the presently alive should have any guilt or gratification over the issue.
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From an historical note, I find the map steve posted hilarious. Since when did OK, MO, and KY secede?
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We do owe African Americans, even the mislead assholes. It’s everyone else that has jumped on the civil rights band wagon that can kiss our ass.

There dilemma has merely been used as a whore or hussy, there plight a means of empowerment. It has worsened and gone down hill ever since the 1960’s when “you know who” convinced the more dumber ones that they needed there help.
It baffles the mind. A free country with so many opportunities and pathways where some chose to stagnate within manufactured cries of suppression.

Those who lead them nothing left but an illusion remaining within criminal element to follow them..


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Slavery has not been abolished theres another name for it its called EMPLOYEE. When you go to work your boss owns you until its time for you to go home.
True enough, you need strong unions and decent legislation to protect working people, so why the fuck vote Republican?
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We do owe African Americans, even the mislead assholes. It’s everyone else that has jumped on the civil rights band wagon that can kiss our ass.

There dilemma has merely been used as a whore or hussy, there plight a means of empowerment. It has worsened and gone down hill ever since the 1960’s when “you know who” convinced the more dumber ones that they needed there help.
It baffles the mind. A free country with so many opportunities and pathways where some chose to stagnate within manufactured cries of suppression.

Those who lead them nothing left but an illusion remaining within criminal element to follow them..


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True enough, you need strong unions and decent legislation to protect working people, so why the fuck vote Republican?
Please. Unions are outdated and corrupt.

Plus, the employee = slavery thing is utter bullshit and I cannot believe you are buying it.
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