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Lesbian Asks Court to Ban Gay Adoptions

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ATLANTA -- Sara Wheeler's life has become a contradiction. Once a proud lesbian, she's now a pariah in the gay community. Once in a committed relationship with a female partner, she's rethinking her sexuality.

Oh REALLY ? I thought "homosexuals" were homosexuals ?

And now she's doing something she once would have considered unthinkable — arguing that gays don't have the legal right to adopt children.

"Everybody seems to forget we're not talking about lesbian rights," Missy Wheeler's attorney says. "We're talking about a child who's been bonded with a mother."

Sara Wheeler made the legal argument that, since nothing in Georgia law specifically allowed gay adoption, the adoption should be tossed out.

Her first lawyers warned her the case could set gay rights back a century.

Sara Wheeler is asking the state Supreme Court to reconsider her case. Such a request rarely succeeds, but the narrow vote gives her hope that one justice might be swayed.

"There's nothing that states this is an acceptable adoption," she said. "If Georgia wants to allow it, it needs to make proper laws."

Aside from a few gay friends, she has turned away from the gay community. She no longer dates, and doesn't go to gay clubs or events any more. She said she is rethinking whether she is still a lesbian or whether she should abandon dating for good.

"I just don't feel comfortable in that scene," she says. "I'm just trying to figure it all out."

She knows she's seen as a betrayer; but in a sense, she feels she was the one betrayed.

"Before I'm anything — gay or lesbian — I'm a mother," she says. "And the most important thing is to make sure my son has a relationship with his biological mother."

Fascinating isn't it ?

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Re: Lesbian Asks Court to Ban Gay Adoptions

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ATLANTA -- Sara Wheeler's life has become a contradiction. Once a proud lesbian, she's now a pariah in the gay community. Once in a committed relationship with a female partner, she's rethinking her sexuality.

Oh REALLY ? I thought "homosexuals" were homosexuals ? Bi-sexual people outnumber homosexual people by a large factor and they are quite capable of changing their object of desire.

And now she's doing something she once would have considered unthinkable — arguing that gays don't have the legal right to adopt children.

"Everybody seems to forget we're not talking about lesbian rights," Missy Wheeler's attorney says. "We're talking about a child who's been bonded with a mother."

Sara Wheeler made the legal argument that, since nothing in Georgia law specifically allowed gay adoption, the adoption should be tossed out.

Her first lawyers warned her the case could set gay rights back a century.

Sara Wheeler is asking the state Supreme Court to reconsider her case. Such a request rarely succeeds, but the narrow vote gives her hope that one justice might be swayed.

"There's nothing that states this is an acceptable adoption," she said. "If Georgia wants to allow it, it needs to make proper laws."

Aside from a few gay friends, she has turned away from the gay community. She no longer dates, and doesn't go to gay clubs or events any more. She said she is rethinking whether she is still a lesbian or whether she should abandon dating for good.

"I just don't feel comfortable in that scene," she says. "I'm just trying to figure it all out."

She knows she's seen as a betrayer; but in a sense, she feels she was the one betrayed.

"Before I'm anything — gay or lesbian — I'm a mother," she says. "And the most important thing is to make sure my son has a relationship with his biological mother."

Fascinating isn't it ?

Lesbian Asks Court to Ban Gay Adoptions
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Old 03-25-2007
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My comments in red

ATLANTA -- Sara Wheeler's life has become a contradiction. Once a proud lesbian, she's now a pariah in the gay community. Once in a committed relationship with a female partner, she's rethinking her sexuality.

Oh REALLY ? I thought "homosexuals" were homosexuals ?

And now she's doing something she once would have considered unthinkable — arguing that gays don't have the legal right to adopt children.

"Everybody seems to forget we're not talking about lesbian rights," Missy Wheeler's attorney says. "We're talking about a child who's been bonded with a mother."

Sara Wheeler made the legal argument that, since nothing in Georgia law specifically allowed gay adoption, the adoption should be tossed out.

Her first lawyers warned her the case could set gay rights back a century.

Sara Wheeler is asking the state Supreme Court to reconsider her case. Such a request rarely succeeds, but the narrow vote gives her hope that one justice might be swayed.

"There's nothing that states this is an acceptable adoption," she said. "If Georgia wants to allow it, it needs to make proper laws."

Aside from a few gay friends, she has turned away from the gay community. She no longer dates, and doesn't go to gay clubs or events any more. She said she is rethinking whether she is still a lesbian or whether she should abandon dating for good.

"I just don't feel comfortable in that scene," she says. "I'm just trying to figure it all out."

She knows she's seen as a betrayer; but in a sense, she feels she was the one betrayed.

"Before I'm anything — gay or lesbian — I'm a mother," she says. "And the most important thing is to make sure my son has a relationship with his biological mother."

Fascinating isn't it ?

Lesbian Asks Court to Ban Gay Adoptions

Why did you leave out the part that shows her real motive in this. You must be a republican, just pick and choose your facts

Wheeler, 36, and her partner, Missy, decided to start a family together and share the Wheeler last name. In 2000, Sara Wheeler gave birth to a son, Gavin, through artificial insemination. Two years later, they decided Missy Wheeler should adopt the child and legally become his second parent.
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Why did you leave out the part that shows her real motive in this. You must be a republican, just pick and choose your facts

Wheeler, 36, and her partner, Missy, decided to start a family together and share the Wheeler last name. In 2000, Sara Wheeler gave birth to a son, Gavin, through artificial insemination. Two years later, they decided Missy Wheeler should adopt the child and legally become his second parent.
Surely you don't mean to suggest that context has some sort of relevance, do you?

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Surely you don't mean to suggest that context has some sort of relevance, do you?

I think that lying by omission is still lying, isn't it? Oh yeah, they call it "spin" nowadays. Thane has an axe to grind and he's recently lost one of his disciples so he's scramblin' to make up time.
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Re: Lesbian Asks Court to Ban Gay Adoptions

So Thane thinks that one lesbian-cum-straight woman is therefore representative of all homosexuals? Given his "rationale(?)" thinking therefore, Michael Jackson is indicative of all blacks; Fred Phelps is indicative of all Christians.......... pulease!
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Excellent replies :-)

Exactly what I expected at USPOL. As usual "Mare" and "noa" give us the best of the best :-)

Fabulous.
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Excellent replies :-)

Exactly what I expected at USPOL. As usual "Mare" and "noa" give us the best of the best :-)

Fabulous.
What, you expected rational well thought out logical replies?
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Excellent replies :-)

Exactly what I expected at USPOL. As usual "Mare" and "noa" give us the best of the best :-)

Fabulous.
We can only respond as well as the original post.
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What, you expected rational well thought out logical replies?
Given the opening post and story, and the lack of logical and rationality in that, did you seriously expect to have an intrinsic debate following?
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Excellent replies :-)

Exactly what I expected at USPOL. As usual "Mare" and "noa" give us the best of the best :-)

Fabulous.
Yes, and as usual Thane gives us the worst of the worst. Who writes your material for you?
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What, you expected rational well thought out logical replies?
Yeah, I know.

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I just gotta remember where I AM sometimes.
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ATLANTA -- Sara Wheeler's life has become a contradiction. Once a proud lesbian, she's now a pariah in the gay community. Once in a committed relationship with a female partner, she's rethinking her sexuality.

Oh REALLY ? I thought "homosexuals" were homosexuals ?

And now she's doing something she once would have considered unthinkable — arguing that gays don't have the legal right to adopt children.

"Everybody seems to forget we're not talking about lesbian rights," Missy Wheeler's attorney says. "We're talking about a child who's been bonded with a mother."

Sara Wheeler made the legal argument that, since nothing in Georgia law specifically allowed gay adoption, the adoption should be tossed out.

Her first lawyers warned her the case could set gay rights back a century.

Sara Wheeler is asking the state Supreme Court to reconsider her case. Such a request rarely succeeds, but the narrow vote gives her hope that one justice might be swayed.

"There's nothing that states this is an acceptable adoption," she said. "If Georgia wants to allow it, it needs to make proper laws."

Aside from a few gay friends, she has turned away from the gay community. She no longer dates, and doesn't go to gay clubs or events any more. She said she is rethinking whether she is still a lesbian or whether she should abandon dating for good.

"I just don't feel comfortable in that scene," she says. "I'm just trying to figure it all out."

She knows she's seen as a betrayer; but in a sense, she feels she was the one betrayed.

"Before I'm anything — gay or lesbian — I'm a mother," she says. "And the most important thing is to make sure my son has a relationship with his biological mother."

Fascinating isn't it ?

Lesbian Asks Court to Ban Gay Adoptions
It was interesting until I read the link.

This is akin to a parent wanting the disolution of the other's parents rights because she wants to marry someone else. Sara Should Lose.
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Why did you leave out the part that shows her real motive in this. You must be a republican, just pick and choose your facts

Wheeler, 36, and her partner, Missy, decided to start a family together and share the Wheeler last name. In 2000, Sara Wheeler gave birth to a son, Gavin, through artificial insemination. Two years later, they decided Missy Wheeler should adopt the child and legally become his second parent.
Somehow or other, you forgot to add what-ever it was you thought relevant. it is obvious thru the link that these are the facts, but the relevant part would be WHY she wants to back outand sever the link. I would guestimate it is plain old Jallousy of the new "Other woman"
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What does Melissa Etheridge think?
I'll take Etheridge over whomever this pseudo-lesbian is.
Actually, what am I saying?
There is nothing that says a persons sexuality hinders adoption prospect.
Does it?
Therefore, this case makes no sense to me.
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