Crazy stuff, that website. I took the weapons test. The findings: I do not associate black or white people with harmless objects or weapons. I am truly neutral on the subject.

Which is funny, as I am a middle-aged white guy who collects archaic and modern weapons as a hobby......

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Not surprising, really. I already knew I had an unconscious bias associating black with violence. I was kinda surprised that I had a bias for NA's though. Although maybe not. My partner is NA.

Good post, Crystal.

Thank you

I'm so glad people are finding the information interesting - I hope it is useful as well. I think that information for fighting hate and promoting tolerance along with a way to test your hidden biases is great information to have in a forum dedicated to social issues. This is why I made it a sticky and placed posting restrictions. I hope everyone continues to find the websites provided more educational than debatable.

BTW, segep soch, it's great to see you back around

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Too many tests to take. I might be interested if it wasn't such an overload of a bunch of different focused tests.

There's my impatience and uh, intolerance for disorder :-)

Server says page was deleted or moved.

It said that for me, too. Just click where it says "home page" and you can get to the tests from there.

Woohoo! Here are my race results: Your Result
Your data suggest little to no automatic preference between African American and European American.

Bummer! My science/gender results indicate that I have a slight preference to associate men with the sciences and women with liberal arts. As a female scientist, that REALLY bums me!

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Well then maybe it is not a prejudice?

Good point. It may be a result of cultural conditiong...media, toys, grammar school, etc.

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Man hitting the keys can drive you nuts!

At any rate - "you have a moderate automatic preference for white"

Not surprising if this tests means anything, and by that I mean all my life I have lived in an overwhelmingly caucasian area so it should be expected that there is a slight preference.

Having said that, I do not consider myself racist at all

Or maybe because men and women are different and think different?

Could you expand on this please? I'm not sure if you mean that I, as a woman, will associate men more with the sciences than a man would? Or do you mean that I am not as capable of being talented in the sciences as a man, simply because I am a woman?

I believe that women do not enter the sciences as often as men because of cultural issues such as attitudes of teachers in school, toys, TV programs targeted for children, etc. I do not, for a second, buy the argument that women are not as capable at the sciences because their "brains are wired differently" as Lawrence Summers implied two years ago by stating that women lack the "intrinsic aptitude" to excel in science.

Summers' remarks on women draw fire - The Boston Globe and The Harvard Crimson :: News :: Summers' Comments on Women and Science Draw Ire

And here is Summers’ response when he realized the gaff he made: Letter from President Summers on women and science

Here is a white paper which includes references that indicate that there is no scientific evidence that women lack the “intrinsic aptitude” to excel in science: http://wiseli.engr.wisc.edu/news/Law...s_Response.pdf

The main reason I don't buy this is personal experience. My parents brought me up believing that I can pursue any field that interests me (and I was the only girl in a house full of brothers). I was never encouraged to pursue interests that culture associates with women such as much of the liberal arts, nor was I encouraged to pursue the sciences. When my parents saw that a certain topic interested me, then I was encouraged to pursue that.

I did a lot of activities that one would associate with women while I grew up - I had Barbie dolls, I took ballet and other dance, I participated in equestrian sports, I was a cheerleader and dance squad participant, I made money on the side babysitting, etc., but I always loved the sciences. It was only until I got to my high school years when my teachers started to encourage my interest in science.

I've been involved in science since then. Of my colleagues, I see an equal proportion of hacks from both genders.

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I do not think women are less capable. In fact recent studies in the Netherlands show the average education level of young women is slighty higher than that of men of the same age. I do think that because women think differently they will make choices different from men in the same situations.

I dont understand what you mean by "liberal arts" but it could very well be that women have a stonger preference to engage in liberal arts than men for example.

What are hacks btw?

Thanks for clarifying. I think you've hit on one of the major reasons women don't pursue the sciences as much as men...because women typically have choices to make regarding family.

When an advanced degree in the sciences requires several years of 80-hour workweeks, family is a difficult choice.

Liberal arts is a term one uses to describe studies including literature, languages, philosophy, sociology, arts...mostly non-science, non-business, non-technology studies.

Hacks is a slang word for charlatans or persons with less-than competent capabilities in their specialty.

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Not surprisingly I registered a preference for White. Don’t really know how to explain it tho…
Urban Legends Reference Pages: Murders of Christopher Newsom and Channon Christian

abc7.com: Two College Athletes Arraigned in Sex Assault
(The 11 attackers were black college football players, the victim an 11- year-old white girl - oh, and it happened two moths after the Duke “spurious” rape charge)


2006 Richmond spree murders - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

I think the test is just another attempt to convince those in the White population that multiculturalism - created by the democratic party in 1965 with their new immigration law - and forced integration is working and stay the course. But, as for you Mr White male, YOU must practice more tolerance.

How do we define “tolerance“: Mr White Christian male, be tolerant of what NEVER has been.. and what shouldn’t be. Otherwise, we got a label waiting for you.

DNA links ex-con to 19-hour torture of student: prosecutor

Attempted Rape Victim Wants Justice - News Story - WFTV Orlando
(The perpetrator is a Black male)
WLTX-TV News, Weather, Sports for Columbia and the Midlands of South Carolina
(victim is a 60-year-old White female)

Crystal, here’s a suggestion for you. Since you got such a preference for the dark guys, why don’t you move into a Black community - I know one exists in Dallas, I’ve been there (White people call it the “bad” area).

http://www.wzzm13.com/news/news_arti...?storyid=72940

Wow, oh gosh gee golly almighty… What neat and totally “awesome” project that would be. You can live among those people, practice diversity (rather than just talking about what a great thing it is here) and then you can report back here on your experience. I’m sure you’ll find an outpouring of love and acceptance in the Black community you choose to mve to. And don’t worry about crime… We all know Black males are stereotyped as prone-to-be-criminal and violent - by racist White people.
Connecticut Sex Offender Charged With Killing Jacksonville Girl In 1996 - Local/Florida News Story - WJXT Jacksonville

(According to the Gov. Statistical abstracts, over 100,000 white males and females have died at the hands of Black males in the commission of a crime since 1964 - the year forced integration began - millions have survived their Black attack)

Teacher attacked by student - NBC 15 Online

I look forward to your report on your experience Crystal. Tell us all here when you plan to make your move.
And I’ll tell you what Crystal, I’ll even reimburse you for moving expenses - up to $1000, so long as you agree to live in a Black community for at least ONE YEAR.

WOW, what a deal I just offered you! Right? My e-mail is below and you can contact me and we’ll iron out the particulars. NO REASON then for you NOT to make the move Crystal. Show us all here how much you want to practice diversity. Don’t talk! Do!

Oh, I also understand that you’ll likely save a lot of money in rent. For some reason, without exception all across this vast country of our, the Black community is always far less costly to live in.

I look forward to hearing from you. In fact- Don’t think any White female has ever done such a thing.

One question for the board here:
What do you think are the odds a bookmaker would give that Crystal will actually practice/live diversity?

p.s. Some here might think I’m being mean to young little Crystal and setting her up to be exposed as a hypocrite. Well, I’m not.

No, that's not your primary mission. But I would like to thank you for letting me know enough about you after only two posts to place you permanently on my ignore list.