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As long as non-muslims can wash their feet too...
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As long as non-muslims can wash their feet too...
People would piss in it, dogs would drink from it, and muslims would wash their feet in it... If it's about hygene, I think Allah would make an exception and let them pray with their shoes on... or does that give you one less virgin in paradise?
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If it's about hygene, I think Allah would make an exception and let them pray with their shoes on... or does that give you one less virgin in paradise?
Despite my asking twice already, no-one has come forward and provided any sort of proof that the Muslim religion requires people to wash their feet before prayers. Sure, some may WISH to wash their feet before prayers, but that is a seperate issue altogether.

Instead we get silly comments such as "one less virgin in paradise".
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Despite my asking twice already, no-one has come forward and provided any sort of proof that the Muslim religion requires people to wash their feet before prayers. Sure, some may WISH to wash their feet before prayers, but that is a seperate issue altogether.

Instead we get silly comments such as "one less virgin in paradise".
Wheter or not muslims have to is irrelevant. What is relevant is that muslims that has demanded this, and they have used Islam as the reason for it. I don't care if all muslims have to do it, it's muslims that use their religion as a arguement to get their foot-baths.

If not all muslims have to wash their feet before praying, that's just supportive of my arguement that "foot-tubs" is folly, as they've lost their only arguement for it.
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Despite my asking twice already, no-one has come forward and provided any sort of proof that the Muslim religion requires people to wash their feet before prayers. Sure, some may WISH to wash their feet before prayers, but that is a seperate issue altogether.

Instead we get silly comments such as "one less virgin in paradise".
They are required to wash their feet, up to the ankles, hands (and arms up to the elbow) and face. And for certain prayers they do a full body wash called a ghusl.
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Wheter or not muslims have to is irrelevant. What is relevant is that muslims that has demanded this, and they have used Islam as the reason for it. I don't care if all muslims have to do it, it's muslims that use their religion as a arguement to get their foot-baths.
Some cab drivers have demanded it - they are hardly representative of all Muslims.

As for using religion as an argument, people of all faiths do that.


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They are required to wash their feet, up to the ankles, hands (and arms up to the elbow) and face.
Is there anything that says that they can't pray without washing?
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Re: Muslim foot-washing basins in airport restrooms

And allowing hare Krishnas to rove about with religious materials wasn't a problem?

Personally, I really don't care if Muslims have the foot washing tubs - it means fewer will slip and fall on their asses, requiring lawsuit protection and hazmat body fluid clean-ups.

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Not so much. Personally, I think it wouldn't be an issue if Islam weren't a "hot button" proposition. Imagine if, instead of Muslims, some band of weirdos were lobbying for foot washing stations in the KC airport. We would probably be discussing this in the "Just for Fun" section and laughing about how some people are just weird.

The big white elephant that has yet to be mentioned in this thread is that allowing Muslims to bathe their feet in public restrooms (or whatever particular superstition they're on board with) is a statement, by proxy, legitimizing Islam. Isn't that really what we're getting at here - whether or not a "foreign religion" should be recognized?
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washing the feet is a key difference between sunni and shia.

Oh, and Hank, if you feel Xtianity must be acknowledged, I think it's okay to put a cross over a urinal or two.


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Some cab drivers have demanded it - they are hardly representative of all Muslims.

As for using religion as an argument, people of all faiths do that.




Is there anything that says that they can't pray without washing?
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washing the feet is a key difference between sunni and shia.

Oh, and Hank, if you feel Xtianity must be acknowledged, I think it's okay to put a cross over a urinal or two.
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My question is, are they a breach of the secular provisions between church and state..
There is no such grid within the constitution. It was based on freedom not suppression. If local community/government wanted a Giant statue of Allah in the lobby or even the court yard, federal government cannot make or re-word existing grids to outlaw it.

The first amendment intent was one of freedom, not oppression.
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frankly, I don’t give a hoot if we build wash basins for them.....but, if for instance, Jewish persons were to ask for ritual bathes, etc..then what? Are these foot basins beyond something just used for hygiene? From what I have read, these bathes are a Muslim ritual mechanism......if so, as much as I would like to accommodate them, this appears to cross the line.
This may seem out of my planted profile, but I’m glad to see the accommodation and freedom coming back unto the American way of life. Thanks for the ice breaker Islam, we’re right behind you (Go figure in our own country.).
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There are places of worship for Christians etc. at airports, I fully support the same for any religion, it would better, I think to install these bathes in an area of worship inclusive to their designated prayer area etc........I don’t know if the airports or county state dollars paid for churches etc. to be built on the property, if so, they deserve the same accommodation, if not, then privately raised funds should be used.
That would be very welcoming and polite, what a society we would be if more people thought like that.
I think people who are offended by seeing something not in line with there beliefs and spending years of there lives and millions of dollars from organizations to eliminate said are butt-holes anyway.
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~Snip~Commentary: Couldn’t they just -like carry a jug of water and a small plastic tub in the trunk??? I mean WTF, it never was a religious thing with liberals was it, it was a Christian thing.
What does that mean exactly?
Stage set instigation usually results in reaction.
It also has a double standard point. If we wanted a holy water basin at gate entrances to bless ourselves before getting on the plane!!! Well, that in itself is self explanatory…
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Pre prayer foot washing is probably of great importance. I'm sure Attah and his cronies washed and prayed up before they went to the airport, though.
You mean on 9/11???
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In China, and much of the far East, there are foot washing basins, and foot massage parlors to boot in many of the international airports. And, 99.9999 percent of those that use them aren't Muslims ...

But oh wait! We just HAVE to find an excuse to bash Muslims, don't we?

Seriously, this is something so totally meaningless I don't even see why someone would start a thread on it. Hey, you don't wish to wash your feet, fine, but let others do so if they want to for Chrissake.
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