Parent Sues Chicago School Board Over Brokeback Mountain Showing

[iTaliAN_ICe]

That's a little drastic... If you're that homophobic you need to grow up (Not you specifically..)

[Donkey_Left]

Originally Posted by Hank

The real world doesn’t consist of such things. To those of us not desensitized it is an abomination of nature to see two men making out.
Think of making out with your grandmother, that’s the horrible unnatural feeling we experience. There never was intolerance, we were just designed for some things to sicken us.

Dude, my grandmother is hott.

[Mrs. M]

Originally Posted by 3.14

JHC, I'm curious - how would you feel if the kids were shown two heterosexual adults kissing deeply, but nothing else?

I'm pretty most of the ones protesting here would write that off as showing true love, or some such thing.

My point is that if the kids were shown XXX stuff of any type, then yes - one has a perfect right to be outraged.

Otherwise? I think not.

I don't want a teacher showing an R-rated film to 14-year-old kids, regardless of the content. If they can't walk into a movie theater and watch it without an adult, it damn sure shouldn't be shown in school!

[3.14]

Originally Posted by Mrs. M

I don't want a teacher showing an R-rated film to 14-year-old kids, regardless of the content. If they can't walk into a movie theater and watch it without an adult, it damn sure shouldn't be shown in school!

I guess your right on that one, but regardless, making such a big hue and cry over it is a bit silly ... Again, it's not like there was any nudity or anything explicit as far as I know.

And BTW, there are many movies which aren't rated, yet show the actors kissing.

Of course, the ratings mean very little in this part of the world - provided one has the bucks, ANYONE can walk into a R rated movie ...

[JHC]

Originally Posted by 3.14

JHC, I'm curious - how would you feel if the kids were shown two heterosexual adults kissing deeply, but nothing else?

I'm pretty most of the ones protesting here would write that off as showing true love, or some such thing.

My point is that if the kids were shown XXX stuff of any type, then yes - one has a perfect right to be outraged.

Otherwise? I think not.

Its a good question on the surface.
I took my kids to see Brokeback. They are 13 and 17 now so the youngest was 12 when I took her with me to see it.

The point isn't what I would mind subjecting my children to, the point is, I'm their mother and I don't appreciate a public school teacher assuming that responsibility.

AND, when I send my kids to school, I expect the teachers to provide knowledge of math, science, and language. I get pissed when they waste my tax dollars on fluff, I get even more pissed when my tax dollars are used to counter my parental roll.
I would be pissed if they showed Shrek during class time.

[SMadsen]

Originally Posted by Speakeasy

LOL, this girl is going to have a lot of problems in the real world...

Heh, my thought as well

Regardless of the silly nonsense about tornadoes etc., this is actually an interesting story. Not about the movie but why someone could be traumatized this way, or, traumatized or not, why someone could even claim that a kid got traumatized this way.
Says alot more about the upbringing of the kid than anything else.

[Hank]

Originally Posted by 3.14

Maybe not the world you inhabit, but it sure does occur in the world I inhabit.

Individual upbringing, information outlet preference and Geographic’s may be the culprit. About 85% of us are still in “Leave it to Beaver land” (I even have a basketball hoop on my garage. ).

Talking about sickening one, this is exactly the type of intolerant post that sickens me. Not much of whats said on the forum really sickens me, but the use of the n word is one thing, and THIS type of post is another.

Anyone who can equate a sexual partner to one's grandmother needs his head examined, to be honest.

You can’t sit there and expect us to believe that the populace being sickened by two guys making out in a mall means there’s something wrong with us and not them. Intolerance used in this context is simply a jingle to deter examination of common sense argument (I‘m quite surprised you missed that correlation.).
It breeds what is propagated within its own message, hate and intolerance.

[Hank]

Originally Posted by iTaliAN_ICe

~Snip~ Christians these days can't seem to differentiate between "sodomy" and "homosexuality"

To tell you the truth, it never actually comes up. The issue is simply an instigation proliferation from antichristian organizers to make you think we ever gave a shit.

We merely counter attacks on us.

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[Hank]

Originally Posted by pramjockey

It was a substitute. I wonder what the qualifications are for subs in Illinois.


In my 9th grade English class we got shown the Romeo and Juliet that showed a nipple.



I guess I'm still traumatized, huh?

Imagine it being George Bush's nipple and you can see what the little girl went through.

[Rakkasan]

dont know if this was touched on in this thread

but it is hard for me to believe there was no parental consent form for this child to have signed by her parents prior to watching this movie

so i dont get the lawsuit period

[3.14]

Originally Posted by JHC

Its a good question on the surface.
I took my kids to see Brokeback. They are 13 and 17 now so the youngest was 12 when I took her with me to see it.

The point isn't what I would mind subjecting my children to, the point is, I'm their mother and I don't appreciate a public school teacher assuming that responsibility.

But, let's assume they showed the kids Titanic, for instance, or any other movie where the lead actors/actresses kissed. Would you really even notice that?

Originally Posted by JHC

AND, when I send my kids to school, I expect the teachers to provide knowledge of math, science, and language. I get pissed when they waste my tax dollars on fluff, I get even more pissed when my tax dollars are used to counter my parental roll.
I would be pissed if they showed Shrek during class time.

Oh, that's a different story altogether - I agree, showing movies during class time isn't a productive use of class time.

[3.14]

Originally Posted by Hank

Individual upbringing, information outlet preference and Geographic’s may be the culprit. About 85% of us are still in “Leave it to Beaver land” (I even have a basketball hoop on my garage. ).

Yes, well, Hank perhaps it doesn't occur in Beaver land, but thats not the real world.

Originally Posted by Hank

You can’t sit there and expect us to believe that the populace being sickened by two guys making out in a mall means there’s something wrong with us and not them.

Well, what would you say if a hetorosexual couple was making out? Probably nothing. So, it's plain and simple bias on your part.

Originally Posted by Hank

Intolerance used in this context is simply a jingle to deter examination of common sense argument (I‘m quite surprised you missed that correlation.).
It breeds what is propagated within its own message, hate and intolerance.

So, how do two guys kissing somehow make for a "non common sense" argument?

[pramjockey]

Originally Posted by Hank

Imagine it being George Bush's nipple and you can see what the little girl went through.

After 12 years in medicine, I've seen more naked people than I care to remember. Unlike some, I'm not worried about a little nudity.

[iTaliAN_ICe]

Originally Posted by Hank

To tell you the truth, it never actually comes up. The issue is simply an instigation proliferation from antichristian organizers to make you think we ever gave a shit.

We merely counter attacks on us.

.

The religious right uses the argument "homosexuality is a sin" constantly. I'm just suprised that I know more about the religion they love so much than they do. They're either ignorant or twisting the words of the bible to say what they want. Either one is bad.

[SMadsen]

Originally Posted by 3.14

But, let's assume they showed the kids Titanic, for instance, or any other movie where the lead actors/actresses kissed. Would you really even notice that?

And the obvious question here is of course how someone could get traumatized by a kiss, or any other action in the same category of affection, and not get traumatized by masses of dying people.

Trivial I know. We don't even notice. But still.