then your vote should have been for an income based system, not a race based one right?

In addition; it pushes some students over their heads, actually depressing minority grad rates than helping them on a comparative basis.

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Ipso- if the rights of the individual get in the way, the rights of the individual must be sublimated.

The Road to Serfdom
FA Hayek (interpretation)


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That's correct. While I probably could have used my last name to score a scholarship if I had thought to, I don't think that's the reason people should be given assistance.

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What do you think about private colleges doing it of their own volition to, for instance, "increase diversity" on campus.

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If it is a private college then that is their business, but no publicly funded institution should be permitted to do that.

no.
That is racism, and racism is illegal for everyone not just public places.

Private colleges "increasing diversity" by giving preferential treatment to individuals because they belong to certain race IS by definition racism..PERIOD.

Sure its racist, but they are private. If they want to be racist, sexist, homophobic or whatever that should be none of our business. Just as the boy scouts can exclude homosexuals and those who reject a higher being, private educational institutions should be able to turn away or accept anybody based on whatever characteristics they want. Of course they shouldn't receive a dime of any sort of public funding if they chose to do this, but if they remain completely separated from the government, why should we care?

As far as I'm concerned, 'Affirmative Action' should be re-named to 'Attitude Adjustment.'

The reason I say this is due to a NYTimes article I read about 8 months ago which noted how blacks who have immigrated here from the Caribbean area are having no problem getting good jobs and are also living in upper middle class neighborhoods.

Original link (need to be a NYTimes member to read the entire story)

Some excerpts from the original story:

This one article ought to lay to rest the myth that racisim is holding blacks (American blacks) down. In my opinion, it is democrats who are holding blacks down by nurturing a victocrat mindset in them.


Kramer

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Albert Shanker, former president of the American Federation of Teachers

That's not a valid comparison.
The girl scouts wouldn't want a male troop leader staying in tents with them to avoid things that DO happen...this is the reason the boys scouts didn't want gay men with boys - one I agree with.

Colleges refusing people based on their being white is no better than restaurants in the south refusing service to blacks.
People who risked their lives fighting for EQUALITY in the 1960's most certainly did not want preferential treatment - they wanted equality for all.