I'm surprised no one has posted on this yet, or perhaps I missed it in my search. I see Dick Cheney has a new grandson:

ABC News: Cheney's Grandson Born to 2 Mommies

As a conservative Christian, I am completly conflicted by this report. On one hand, I wish happiness for Dick and his family, and would like to congradulate him on his addition to the family.

On the other hand, this is a form of child abuse, the poor kid will never have a father. The child was concieved unatuarally, and born into sin. The best outcome for the child would be to be placed in a Christian based foster home or orphanage, paid for as part of the Faith Based Initiative. This should be done before too much damage to the child's development occurs.

I have been listening to Rush and reading Anne, hoping for some moral guidance on this issue. Perhaps they addressed it, but I missed thier discussion. Does anyone know the proper response (joy or disgust) I should have for this event? Any help would be appreciated.

How about disinterest or indifference for people whose personal lives, and personal choices, are wholly unconnected to you?

Or, if that´s not possible, how about just realizing that mom/dad families, Christian or not, are possibly just as dysfunctional or just as happy as gay families? Who are you to claim that this baby´s future is screwed from the beginning? She might be a better mother than many straight mothers out there and there´s probably alot of kids out there, who would have been better off without a dad around (in the extreme cases).

My point is that she is just as qualified to be a mother as anyone else and you just have to accept the family structure changes over time, just as everything else in society. It´s not a threat to your own marriage or your own kids. If you view it as such, I recommend serious marriage counseling seeing as something like this could possible shake it up...

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A very nice sentiment. Pity you can't just leave it at that...

Oh, horseshit...

I know a lot of people who didn't have a father growing up. Dad got Mom pregnant, then he was outta' there. These people have turned out just fine...

So? Do you take the same position when a heterosexual couple uses invitro-fertilization to get pregnant?

I suspect not...

I thought the Christian mantra was that we're all born into sin...

Since you're so in favor of that, perhaps you'd be interested in paying to ensure that the child grows up with Christian values...

What kind of damage?

I know a Christian woman; a signle mother. Since there's no father involved, are these children likely to suffer "too much damage"?

That's the funniest fucking thing I've read all morning. Moral guidance from Ann Coulter?

Again, I addressed it in my first sentence. You expressed a nice sentiment, but you couldn't leave it alone, and you couldn't because they're gay.

I got news for you, Slick, there are a lot of kids, in two parent homes, who will probably lead a far more fucked up existence than Cheney's grandson...

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Alas, wrx's satire is lost on many.

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But if it weren't somewhat subtle, it wouldn't be as funny. Cheers.

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Hehe, the OP is agreeing with you all and making many larger statements. Once again our OP gets the Jonathan Swift award for satire. He is our resident political satirist. It is tongue and cheek. I still love the one regarding fundraising for Tom Delay's legal defence fund last year and a few others.

I have no problem with a single parent; things happen in life that are beyond our control. One parent dies, a spouse turns abusive, etc. The problem in this situation is the conception was deliberate, the child was knowingly placed into an inferior family situation.

If you support this situation, I can then assume that you support gay marriage, the ability of homosexuals to adopt children, and feel a father is an unnecessary and frivolous member of the family. This is a very slipperly slope indeed.

Perhaps I should stop while I am ahead, if I am ahead at all. Cheers.

Ooops, see what happens when you’re new. I should have just kept my mouth shut. It was, however, a very good post. Usually satire in that milieu is obvious.

I don't understand why Cheney isn't calling for his daughter to be stoned to death and have his grandson to be raised by a faith based organization like al-Qaeda. Don't these conservatives care about consistency?

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No worries. I was at a loss for a while after he first arrived, a lot of us were.



Re: the subject. Good for her and her girlfriend, all the best for them, good health for the child and that's about it. A NUNYA situation (as in none of my business).

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Nah. I used to get very angry with him until OSB pointed out that it was satire. Then I started to laugh. I think we all go through that stage.

Oh, and welcome to the board!

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You should study some of wrxsti's posts.

The difference between wrxsti's satire and yours? Wrxsti's satire is clever.

Matt

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You are absolutely correct! The child should be taken from that sinful home and given to the Rev. Fred Phelps to be raised a "good" Christian.

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