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Re: Seizing Property from Illegals

No Goober, it means we know how bad of a President you're cheerleading for.

He was the first President to be impeached in how many years?

He lost a Dem controlled House that left you guys in the minority fo 12 years.

He was handed Bin Laden on a plate and turned him away.

He lobbed missles into the Mid East....and missed!

He basically gave Bush the Presidency by doing what he did, why is it you love this guy so much? He was a great help to the GOP and he effectively helped with Bush's re-election in 04 by not campaigning for Kerry...by rights you should hate this guy!
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I see what you mean, Goober.
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Of course you do!
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Surely there's got to be a rule about that somewhere on these boards.
And this of course is within the rules it:

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And this of course is within the rules it:

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Edited it to the specific post in question.
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I specifically refuted his point, which is done consistently to him. Despite his decision to ignore facts, he regularly spouts his mistruths. In the common vernacular, he's full of shit.

Now, if you've got something real to discuss, please bring it to the table.
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Right, so you lose the argument so you resort to saying Varus is full of shit.

Hey goober notice how he didn't have to mention the word defeat to show that he's lost the debate?
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Please, explain how confronting (yet another) mistruth with facts is "losing the argument."
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Ide hate to go to another country where they say I am there illegally, then take my belongings away. I worked for and earned the money to have such belongings.
I dont think anyone has the right to assume the belongings were earned illegally unless there is proof of that.
Just my take on it.
I'd be willing to bet going to another country ILLEGALLY would not be something you're likely to do though.

Anyway, the belongings WERE earned illegally. They WERE earned while in the COMMISSION OF A CRIME. It is against the law to be here illegally. Just by being here they are commiting a crime. But even further, it is against THE LAW to work in America without providing proof of citizenship, unless you have some sort of work visa, which illegals generally do not have. It does NOT absolve the guilt of the illegal if the employer fails to ask for proof of citizenship, in that case BOTH not one or the other have commited a crime.

A drug dealer's PROPERTY is fair game when they get caught. It is considered ill-gotten gains through profits achieved during illegal activity. There is absolutely no difference, the illegals are commiting crime coming up here stealing jobs from legal citizens. They should lose EVERYTHING they have, it should be sold at public auctioned. THEN (they wanted to work in America) they should be slapped into the nearest penitentiary for a duration decided by some AMERICAN court and put on a work farm until they've repaid the American people that which they stole from us.
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I have no issue with assets of employers being seized for knowingly hiring illegal immigrants. The same logic applies - if the company made X dollars from the labor of illegals, then X dollars should be seized.
I believe actually that this has in fact happened. Maybe somebody who enjoys doing research can look it up. I thought I heard something about Walmart having to dish out some money because they'd been found to have been employing illegals.
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Governments are instituted among men to secure these rights....
Illegal immigrants in any country are only afforded the rights that country is willing to extend to them. The other side of the coin would be that the laws of a government does not extend to immigrants because they are not citizens. If that was true then illegals could commit crimes with impunity. At any rate if this congress wanted to achieve something they could attempt to define what if any rights illegals should have rather then wasting time playing political games and trying to drum up charges against this administration.
I disagree with your logic. You appear to be suggesting that if our constitution does not grant an illegal alien the rights of our citizens then no law whatsoever can pertain to the illegal?

I don't know what more to say other than I just can't fathom how you make that work in your mind.

An illegal alien, by stepping foot here, has made it clear automatically that they have a reckless disregard for our laws. The second they cross that border they've become a criminal according to our laws. There is nothing in the constitution that can be read to intend that the hands of law enforcement officials should be tied if the criminal happens to not be from here. That would be just plain silly.
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