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You mean the 90+% of the children who won't be allowed to play TAG? Those are the victims.



Well, perhaps they shouldn't have been tormenting other students.

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Is it?
Yes, it certainly is...

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Maybe you were the bully, instead of the bullied in elementary school? I'd say that the patterns are established early.
No, in fact, I was bullied through the first three years of high school. That changed, pretty significantly, in my senior year...

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Being harassed and bullied isn't being forced to play tag. There's something else going on.
How the fuck is someone "forced" to play Tag? How does that happen? How do you force somoene to chase you? If you get "tagged", don't do anything, and the game comes to an abrupt end.

How did they force you to play Tag, Pram?
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How the fuck is someone "forced" to play Tag? How does that happen? How do you force somoene to chase you? If you get "tagged", don't do anything, and the game comes to an abrupt end.

How did they force you to play Tag, Pram?


Could you possibly have missed the point further? Reread what I posted.
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I couldn't believe this when I read it. A school in Colorado has banned... well, just read it:

This Is Just Fucking Stupid
How is banning the game of 'tag' political correctness? I've always associated that term with the creation of euphemisms or policy to avoid offending a particular demographic of people. This just appears to be a case of Nurse Ratchett being put in charge of a particular elementary school - no broader 'political' implications.
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Well, perhaps they shouldn't have been tormenting other students.

Just a thought.
Better than being a pansy ass and running to mommy.

Oh, and for the record....I wasn't a bully, I was the guy that stuck up against bullies pushing others around.
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Think what you want. Bullying is rampant in the schools. Events like Columbine are a direct result of it.
I read or heard somewhere recently that this was a popular misconception, vis a vis the students at Columbine. In other words, these kids, while not popular, were not bullied, per se. IIRC, this was just what people naturally assumed.

Unfortunately, I do not remember the source, so the veracity of this claim could be suspect. Does anyone else recall hearing something like that?
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Better than being a pansy ass and running to mommy.

Oh, and for the record....I wasn't a bully, I was the guy that stuck up against bullies pushing others around.
By calling them "pansy asses?"
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I read or heard somewhere recently that this was a popular misconception, vis a vis the students at Columbine. In other words, these kids, while not popular, were not bullied, per se. IIRC, this was just what people naturally assumed.

Unfortunately, I do not remember the source, so the veracity of this claim could be suspect. Does anyone else recall hearing something like that?
Interesting, because all of the information I got was directly indicative of the violent behavior purported by the popular students against individuals like those two murderers.
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I read through this thread and the following is all I could think of.
There's nothing quite like recalling, fondly and inaccurately, how much better things were when there were separate drinking fountains for black people. While things were certainly "better" when the old man who wrote that in his rocking chair walked uphill both ways to school, 70 miles, through a blizzard in the middle of summer, and didn't complain a lick neither, I would submit that each generation of children has its own unique challenges to face and pitfalls to avoid. And, if children contracting lead poisoning at a young age, being killed in cars for not wearing seatbelts, and suffering SID is considered a mark of toughness for the survivors, I would consider it a matter of intelligence of more recent generations that less people die of ignorance and stupidity.

"It's a wonder that we all survived...."

Yeah, well, not everyone survived, and more probably would have if they weren't eating lead and riding on the undercarriages of cars, or whatever other spurious bluster about generational toughness was contained in that absurd screed.
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Interesting, because all of the information I got was directly indicative of the violent behavior purported by the popular students against individuals like those two murderers.
As I said, I could be wrong - I'm more curious than anything. An anomalous incident like that tends not to affect my opinion on policy anyway.
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As I said, I could be wrong - I'm more curious than anything. An anomalous incident like that tends not to affect my opinion on policy anyway.
I understand. Like I said, I have a particular sensitivity.

Hell, I almost brought my dad's gun to school.

Yeah, it was that bad.
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I understand. Like I said, I have a particular sensitivity.

Hell, I almost brought my dad's gun to school.

Yeah, it was that bad.
I remember kids subject to that sort of bullying at my school, particularly in junior high. You know what's funny (well, not humorous, but ironic) - no one seems to pick on the kids in the social basement as much as the kids standing on the lowest step, as if to say "don't look at me - let's band together and spray mustard all over that nerd's locker". Being a kid that age is being in a Machiavellian snakepit of tenuous alliances so as not to be excluded or picked on. There seems to be no real friendship until children get a bit older - just mutually beneficial arrangements of protection. One unfortunate turn of phrase or time leaving your fly unzipped seals your fate of months of merciless torture.

Putting children into such enclosed and unending situations as the babysitting service that is public school practically invites that sort of thing among a group of kids that are balls of awkward hormones. When they're not having pissing contests to see who can get sent to the principal the most, they're saying absolutely terrible things to one another.

There is nothing more cruel on the planet than a 13 year old child.

As an aside, I have no particular cause for bitterness. I was too aloof and, frankly, large (I was an early bloomer) to be the recipient of much scorn and, more often than not, I tended to leave others alone. I just remember observing the whole 'game' with a sense of detached amusement.
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By calling them "pansy asses?"
In every boy there comes a day when his ball sack will drop and he becomes a man, whether he chooses to allow it to drop as a child or when he's 30yrs old it doesn't matter, sooner or later that boy will be provoked and bullied and he will be forced to face the situation.

And yes, I've called kids pansy asses for running from bullies. I even taught my daughters on how to fight and I can honestly say that few boy's (let alone girls) fucked with them.
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I don't know that I'm bitter, just sensitive to it. I was average size until my senior year, when I exploded (didn't stop growing until I was 24). I wish I had been my size then; perhaps I'd not have been picked on.

What's really funny to me is how during my senior year at a large urban high school I didn't get picked on at all. My two previous years at a rural high school (600 kids in 4 grades) were an absolute terror. I was in fear for my life nearly every day. The high school where I taught, despite being remarkably poor and inner-city, had nearly zero bullying.
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In every boy there comes a day when his ball sack will drop and he becomes a man, whether he chooses to allow it to drop as a child or when he's 30yrs old it doesn't matter, sooner or later that boy will be provoked and bullied and he will be forced to face the situation.

And yes, I've called kids pansy asses for running from bullies. I even taught my daughters on how to fight and I can honestly say that few boy's (let alone girls) fucked with them.
Ah, yes. The "real man" bullshit. Well, if that's what you think is appropriate.
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