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Re: Homosexuals imposing THEIR Values on Christians

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Oh I "get it" alright. You want to convince me and everyone else that your reason for obsessing about and posting every negative thing you can about gays, is that you are so morally inspired and "straight" that you are doing it as a "public service."
Of course, there's always the possibility of "denial"...
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homosexuals dont bother me.
christians dont bother me.
live and let live.
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What about homosexual Christians?
Oxymoron.
As a Christian, I'm gonna have to take issue with that. Why should homosexuality (even if one considered it a "sin", which depending on your definition might be a stretch) be singled out as some sort of self-excommunicating offense?
Would you also claim that there are no "gluttonous Christians", "greedy Christians", "slothful Christians", wrathful Christians", "envious Christians", prideful Christians" or "lustful Christians"?

And, as regards the OP, I fail to see how anyone was "imposed" upon; they made a plan without sufficient fore-thought or planning and when the it came down to details they realized they didn't want to work together anymore, so they didn't. The last minute nature of the whole thing (and, doubtless, the poor planning on everyone's part) understandably ticked some people off. Seems simple enough...
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Re: Homosexuals imposing THEIR Values on Christians

By golly .... this reminds me of that old parable.

You can lead a fish to water, but you cant make it ... ummm ... pass through the eye of a camel ... or something.

You know what I think ... yes yes ... I know you WANT to know ...

Jesus The Christ, he who brought the message of love and tollerance and forgiveness. He who spoke with the prostitutues and the tax collectors, he who was humble and washed the feet of others.

He would read this ranting of Dr and turn in his grave.

Eeeeesh. Hey did you people know about Main Page - Conservapedia. Awesome. I tell ya, if there has ever been a genuine argument for eugenics, there it is.
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homosexuals dont bother me.
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If I had a beer, I'd lift it in your direction.
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Wow... Your mind must be a fuckin' facinating place.

I know plenty of straight people, and none of them have ever been gay. I know plenty of gay people, and none of them have ever been straight. I've never met a single straight person who thought about "going gay", or vice versa.

Ever.

Since you want to "If" my scenario into the ground (a clear sign of the lack of strength in your argument), let me promote an "if" of my own:

If someone is always attracted to those of the same sex, but never acts on it, he (or she) is still gay.

I actually kinda' like your ranting threads against homosexuals. They start out as shitty and weak, and go downhill from there...
Ummm hmmm...

Same kind of delirious crapola that "gays" and "gay" advocates post.

Attack ME :-)

Yeah, THAT'LL make your point
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As a Christian, I'm gonna have to take issue with that. Why should homosexuality (even if one considered it a "sin", which depending on your definition might be a stretch) be singled out as some sort of self-excommunicating offense?
Would you also claim that there are no "gluttonous Christians", "greedy Christians", "slothful Christians", wrathful Christians", "envious Christians", prideful Christians" or "lustful Christians"?
I said this in an earlier post (# 26 of this thread) here:

We had "adrien eks aye aye" telling us that a person that sins once or twice because he's human and prone to screwing up at times, is the SAME as a person who decides consciously and regularly to act out and continue acting out sinful behaviours.

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And, as regards the OP, I fail to see how anyone was "imposed" upon; they made a plan without sufficient fore-thought or planning and when the it came down to details they realized they didn't want to work together anymore, so they didn't. The last minute nature of the whole thing (and, doubtless, the poor planning on everyone's part) understandably ticked some people off. Seems simple enough...
Yes, lets pretend that it was only "lack of forethought".

That's bullshit.

Homosexuals have been pulling this kind of shit and will continue pulling this kind of shit. Some of us choose to play stupid ? Not ALL of us.

Now, I expect I'll be called a "paranoid homophobe" or some such insulting horseshit.

Doesn't bother me considering who/where it's coming from.
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Ummm hmmm...

Same kind of delirious crapola that "gays" and "gay" advocates post.

Attack ME :-)

Yeah, THAT'LL make your point
I'm neither gay nor a gay advocate.

What I am, though, is someone who'll point out bullshit arguments when they're posted.

I also notice that you didn't address any of the topic-related points in my post.

Then again, you probably couldn't without making yourself look even more foolish than you already do, so you likely erred on the side of caution.

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I said this in an earlier post (# 26 of this thread) here:

We had "adrien eks aye aye" telling us that a person that sins once or twice because he's human and prone to screwing up at times, is the SAME as a person who decides consciously and regularly to act out and continue acting out sinful behaviours.
What's really funny is that, while you don't even pretend to be a Christian, you'll use just about any argument that you feel will help you promote your agenda. Which brings us to your next comment...

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Now, I expect I'll be called a "paranoid homophobe" or some such insulting horseshit.
Damn right. You don't even care whether your arguments are truthful or not, all you care about is bashing homosexuals. That makes you a hater, no more, and a seriously unbalanced hater, at that, considering the effort you spend posting your rants.
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I said this in an earlier post (# 26 of this thread) here:

We had "adrien eks aye aye" telling us that a person that sins once or twice because he's human and prone to screwing up at times, is the SAME as a person who decides consciously and regularly to act out and continue acting out sinful behaviours.
What? That didn't even remotely answer my question.
What about a chronically greedy Christian? How about a chronically wrathful Christian? A chronically slothful Christian? Are those all oxymoron's?
What about a Christian who keeps getting drunk? Is he banished from the religion? How about one who constantly ends up being conceited?
Are none of those people really Christians? Why single out homosexual conduct as some sort of "special" sin?

And, for that matter, who are you to declare that someone's Christianity depends on their following some code of conduct? Christianity is about forgiveness and grace, not about banishing people from the religion for their actions.
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Re: Homosexuals imposing THEIR Values on Christians

Ummm hmm..

Lets look at a little bit from the opening post again shall we ?

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Then, you'll have to forgive my lack of benevolence toward the bereaved, but just how dull are these people? Even if you're a confirmed secularist, shouldn't you at least suspect that a Christian church just might have a problem with overt displays of homosexuality? What are we to think of their failure to mention such a thing? After all, I can't imagine there would be any expectation that Moslems should make a concession simply because you pleaded ignorance about their prohibition against pork. On the contrary, I think you'd be told to expand your cultural horizons.

Many people are so awash in relativism nowadays that they just can't imagine anyone who embraces authentic Christian doctrine; that is, not anyone with whom they could possibly consort. Why, those snake-handlers may exist in some backwoods region of stills, spells, unkempt hair, rotting teeth and home-birthing, but the evolved people modernists such as themselves encounter would never subscribe to antiquated notions like sin or Truth. Of course they'd espouse the tenets of the times. Doesn't everybody?

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What are we to think of their failure to mention such a thing ? We're to think that didn't mention it because, supposedly they didn't think it NEEDED mentioned ? We're supposed to beleive that they are/were just stupid or ignorant.

Because stupidity and ignorance are MUCH more forgivable than agressive tactics used to push perverse behaviour in the faces of religious Christians.


Which is what this is/was. An agressive tactic used to push perverse behaviour into the faces of religious Christians.

We've seen plenty of it, that's exactly what this was. Dismissing it as "the intolerance of Christianity" and you're doing exactly what they wanted you to do. If you don't see that, you've willingly donned the blinders homosexuals and their advocates are encouraging us all to wear.



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I'm neither gay nor a gay advocate.

What I am, though, is someone who'll point out bullshit arguments when they're posted.

I also notice that you didn't address any of the topic-related points in my post.

Then again, you probably couldn't without making yourself look even more foolish than you already do, so you likely erred on the side of caution.

Got it...
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What? That didn't even remotely answer my question.
What about a chronically greedy Christian? How about a chronically wrathful Christian? A chronically slothful Christian? Are those all oxymoron's?
What about a Christian who keeps getting drunk? Is he banished from the religion? How about one who constantly ends up being conceited?
Are none of those people really Christians? Why single out homosexual conduct as some sort of "special" sin?

And, for that matter, who are you to declare that someone's Christianity depends on their following some code of conduct? Christianity is about forgiveness and grace, not about banishing people from the religion for their actions.

These people would not enter a church and flaunt their consistent sins in front of an entire congregation now would they ?

They MIGHT go and speak of them and ask forgiveness FOR them. Do you beleive they would show a film or a slideshow OF their sinful behaviour(s) ?

I don't.

See above post (#43) for WHY they did/do such things.
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What's really funny is that, while you don't even pretend to be a Christian, you'll use just about any argument that you feel will help you promote your agenda. Which brings us to your next comment...



Damn right. You don't even care whether your arguments are truthful or not, all you care about is bashing homosexuals. That makes you a hater, no more, and a seriously unbalanced hater, at that, considering the effort you spend posting your rants.
Yadda yadda yadda -- hateful me.

Blah blah blah -- hateful me

Ooba dooba dooba -- ranting me

Ummm hmmmm
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