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Re: Homosexuals imposing THEIR Values on Christians

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homosexuals dont bother me.
christians dont bother me.
live and let live.
It would be real neat if ALL homosexuals thought like that. Many DO ( I know a few ) and they think these kinds of actions, made by only a FEW ridiculous retards in the homosexual population, are asinine and make ALL homosexuals look worse.
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These people would not enter a church and flaunt their consistent sins in front of an entire congregation now would they ?

They MIGHT go and speak of them and ask forgiveness FOR them. Do you beleive they would show a film or a slideshow OF their sinful behaviour(s) ?

I don't.

See above post (#43) for WHY they did/do such things.
Ummm, did you ever see Jim Baker or Jim Stewart in action? They "flaunted" themselves in front of a congregation each week, all the while asking for cash (albeit their audience didn't know it was going to them, although it doesn't take Einstein to see that they were buying new planes every year, etc). Still, if you want to insist on once again generalising all homosexuals based on the words and/or actions of a few then I am yet again forced to suppose that Fred Phelps speaks for and represents ALL Christians. It swings both ways.
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Re: Homosexuals imposing THEIR Values on Christians

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These people would not enter a church and flaunt their consistent sins in front of an entire congregation now would they ?

They MIGHT go and speak of them and ask forgiveness FOR them. Do you beleive they would show a film or a slideshow OF their sinful behaviour(s) ?

I don't.

See above post (#43) for WHY they did/do such things.
I have no idea what people will or won't do, and I'm certainly not arrogant enough to definately declare whether or not someone I've never even met will ever ask forgiveness for something or whether they will flaunt it.
AND, for that matter, I think you've totally lost track of the entire point of Christianity if you think that the defining aspect of a Christian is that they don't flaunt their sins about. Christianity is about grace and forgiveness; flaunting a sin is itself just another sin, and not a particularly special one.

But really, Tripps, since you yourself have repeatedly emphasized that you are not religious, perhaps you should just avoid making judgments whose "in" and whose "out" of a given religion.
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I have no idea what people will or won't do, and I'm certainly not arrogant enough to definately declare whether or not someone I've never even met will ever ask forgiveness for something or whether they will flaunt it.
AND, for that matter, I think you've totally lost track of the entire point of Christianity if you think that the defining aspect of a Christian is that they don't flaunt their sins about. Christianity is about grace and forgiveness; flaunting a sin is itself just another sin, and not a particularly special one.

But really, Tripps, since you yourself have repeatedly emphasized that you are not religious, perhaps you should just avoid making judgments whose "in" and whose "out" of a given religion.
Fair enough.

My reason for creating this thread was only to alert people to the fact that perverse behaviour and activities are more aggressively being pushed at ALL of us.

Many of us are so desensitized these days, these kinds of things don't bother us.

It's dangerous to desensitize an entire civilization to perverse and/or unhealthy or dangerous behaviours. Which is what SOME of them wish to DO:

Urvashi Vaid, lesbian activist and author of the book Virtual Equality: The Mainstreaming of Gay & Lesbian Liberation said:

"The goal of the gay and lesbian movement is to achieve a society in which homosexuality is considered as healthy, natural, and normal as heterosexuality. It's going to require a change in people's attitudes, in people's hearts, and in people's values about what they think is good and bad. ..."

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Desensitize people to something and it will be very EASY to change and redefine what people think is good or bad.


Make good bad and bad good.

Good idea

That's all.
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Re: Homosexuals imposing THEIR Values on Christians

This is something my family and I have discussed since it was news from around here. My parents were in defense of the church. I, of course, have not been. I'm reminded of all the baby showers the churches host for unwed mothers even posting reminders in the church bulletins for weeks before the event and then when the bastard child is born a big announcement is made. I'll never understand why homosexuality has been singled out among so many churches.
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This is something my family and I have discussed since it was news from around here. My parents were in defense of the church. I, of course, have not been. I'm reminded of all the baby showers the churches host for unwed mothers even posting reminders in the church bulletins for weeks before the event and then when the bastard child is born a big announcement is made. I'll never understand why homosexuality has been singled out among so many churches.
Desensitize people to something and it will be very EASY to change and redefine what people think is good or bad.

It's just kind of turned into a "straw that broke the camels back".

Tolerance can only be taken so far before people revolt against it when it's taken to an extreme measure.

People are sick of tolerating any and every sick and/or perverse idea or behaviour.

That, I think, sums it up.
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Re: Homosexuals imposing THEIR Values on Christians

If you truly believe that society is doing as you say, why do you proselytize here with an endless stream of threads about homosexuals? Wouldn't that be unnecessary - "spreading the word"?
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Re: Homosexuals imposing THEIR Values on Christians

Why does anybody do anything here :-)

That I'm unwilling to dismiss, ignore or shrug off agressive homosexuals and their advocates and actions pisses a few OFF here, that's true.

Let them be mad and call me names. Seems to be the main thing some of them rely on.

Other things to argue about will surface in time (more about Hillary, I'm sure :-) )

Pretty slow right now.
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Re: Homosexuals imposing THEIR Values on Christians

That had nothing to do with what I said.
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Re: Homosexuals imposing THEIR Values on Christians

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If you truly believe that society is doing as you say, why do you proselytize here with an endless stream of threads about homosexuals? Wouldn't that be unnecessary - "spreading the word"?
I said this:

Why does anybody do anything here :-)

That I'm unwilling to dismiss, ignore or shrug off agressive homosexuals and their advocates and actions pisses a few OFF here, that's true.

Let them be mad and call me names. Seems to be the main thing some of them rely on.

Other things to argue about will surface in time (more about Hillary, I'm sure :-) )

Pretty slow right now.


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That had nothing to do with what I said.
I'll break it down for you in detail if you want:

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If you truly believe that society is doing as you say, why do you proselytize here with an endless stream of threads about homosexuals?
First, proselytize means;

1 : to induce someone to convert to one's faith
2 : to recruit someone to join one's party, institution, or cause
transitive verb : to recruit or convert especially to a new faith, institution, or cause ...

Definition of proselytize - Merriam-Webster Online Dictionary

I'm not proselytizing, because I'm not a Christian and have no faith, institution, or cause to proselytize FOR.

Second, I don't "proselytize here with an endless stream of threads about homosexuals". I've started some number of threads about this subject.

Started some number of threads about this subject because, as I said earlier, I'm unwilling to dismiss, ignore or shrug off agressive homosexuals and their advocates and actions.

Some of us are, I'm NOT.

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Wouldn't that be unnecessary - "spreading the word"?
Then I said:

Why does anybody do anything here :-)

Other things to argue about will surface in time (more about Hillary, I'm sure :-) )

Pretty slow right now.

No reason FOR me to be "spreading the word", as you've pointed OUT :-) There are many many many people that have had it up to here (holds hand over top of head) with aggressive homosexuals and their advocates for perverse "weirdnesses".

In otherworlds, I'm BORED :-) As you are, since your here commenting.

I'll say it again (this is where you can roll your eyes and call out for pizza) LOL

Other things to argue about will surface in time (more about Hillary, I'm sure :-) )

Have a good one
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Re: Homosexuals imposing THEIR Values on Christians

uh... okay.
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