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Old 09-18-2007
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Green card without speaking a word of english?

My uncle is dating a girl who's Chinese and who's mother is immigrating to the US. The thing is that she doesn't speak 1 word of english. Should this be allowed? I wouldn't want someone coming to my country that cannot communicate with anyone.
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Old 09-18-2007
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Re: Green card without speaking a word of english?

Green card yes...citizenship no.
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Green card yes...citizenship no.
Quite so.
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Re: Green card without speaking a word of english?

Before someone is granted a green card, they should have to demonstrate that they can communicate, if only primitively, with someone who only speaks English if they have to.

Otherwise, have a nice visit, but then get the fuck out...
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Before someone is granted a green card, they should have to demonstrate that they can communicate, if only primitively, with someone who only speaks English if they have to.

Otherwise, have a nice visit, but then get the fuck out...
Primitively?

I assume you have traveled to countries where you don't speak the language? It's amazing how far pointing and gesturing can go.
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Primitively?

I assume you have traveled to countries where you don't speak the language? It's amazing how far pointing and gesturing can go.
I have, and I agree to a point. My experience, having traveled on five continents, is that far more people speak English in a normally non-English speaking country than there are people who speak Chinese in normally non-Chinese speaking countries.

But, we're also talking about someone who wants to stay here for an extended period of time, not someone merely visiting a country.

A 'fer instance: Let's say the person is the only person other person around when someone has a heart attack, and he or she doesn't know
CPR.

The person sees a car accident. Who are they going to call if they can't communicate? Chinese EMS?

They can't call for help. They can't pick up a phone and communicate.

Green cards aren't a "right". As such, one of the requirements for obtaining one should be the ability to communicate...
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Re: Green card without speaking a word of english?

Then maybe no green cards for deaf mutes?
If someone is legally qualified for a green card, I don't see any reason why they have to speak english on day one. If they decide they never want to learn english, they'll probably leave on their own accord after a while.

Why would they want a green card if they intend never to speak english?
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Then maybe no green cards for deaf mutes?
Deaf mutes can communicate through writing...

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If someone is legally qualified for a green card, I don't see any reason why they have to speak english on day one.
I believe the legal qualifications should be amended...

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If they decide they never want to learn english, they'll probably leave on their own accord after a while.
Good, then a short visit should do the trick...

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Why would they want a green card if they intend never to speak english?
Why do illegal scumbag aliens, who don't speak English, want to be here?
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Re: Green card without speaking a word of english?

Funny, a good friend of mine was brought here as a child and given a green card. He was pre-verbal.

Should he have been denied?
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Re: Green card without speaking a word of english?

When I was 16 I had a job in a restaurant kitchen. Most of the other workers were adult men from brazil, argentina, dominican republic, etc. They all worked in factories during the day and in this restaurant kitchen at night. Many of them spoke virtually no english. But they understood "mop", "coffee cups", or "two chef salads" and all the american staff knew enough spanish to say "pollo" or "caliente", or "langosta". Prime rib was "carne grande".

So I can see a non english speaker being productive in this country. All those guys worked harder than most natives. I understand the language requirement for citizenship but it seems stupid to require it for a green card.
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