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Re: Jena 6

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I trust you know about DOJ and the Ga Voter Id Bill?
Oh yes. And I dare say that, were it not for the fact that people in Georgia are now required to show photo ID when voting, this incident in Jena would never have occurred.

Verily, responsibility for the racists acts of those in Louisiana should be laid at the feet of Georgia W. Bush. Doubtless had Kerry or Gore not had their rightful victory snatched from them by the scourge that is the Republican party, southern racism would have vanished into history ere this unfortunate event transpired.
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Oh yes. And I dare say that, were it not for the fact that people in Georgia are now required to show photo ID when voting, this incident in Jena would never have occurred.

Verily, responsibility for the racists acts of those in Louisiana should be laid at the feet of Georgia W. Bush. Doubtless had Kerry or Gore not had their rightful victory snatched from them by the scourge that is the Republican party, southern racism would have vanished into history ere this unfortunate event transpired.



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Re: Jena 6

For those who do not know, the Ga Id bill was proposed to the DOJ (under AL the Pal's helmage) on the 'logical' basis that 'The only time Black people in my District vote is when they paid to so.', as its sponsor glibly explained.

Being a fundamentally racist state, Georgia, you see, is required under the 1965 Voting Rights Law to get DOJ approval on any actions which affect the franchise.

Most DOJ career Lawyers immediately rejected Georgia's latest atempt to keep Blacks from voting (#91 since 1998, fyi).

However, Al, in accordance with the unofficial policy of using Caging Lists to accomplish that same thing on a national basis, okayed Ga's 'Back to the back of the bus' law; the career types in the Votiong Rights Div of DOJ were sickened. Many resigned, ands it was this (and similair actions) that got Al's dumb ass sent packing back to Texas, where sleaze like that is not only accepted, but encouraged.

Fortunately, a Fed District Court threw out the Ga. Id Bill on the grounds it was a 'poll tax'.

Ga, of course, cared litle for that fact, as keeping the Blacks in their place (which ain't the voting booth) was the goal, and nothing else would do.

Since DOJ is still under Rove's mgmt, they are trying again, at last report.

Now that we're all caught-up on the facts......

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That have absolutely nothing to do with the topic at hand.

It's not even the same state, FFS.
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Amazingly, I've had to show a picture ID to vote in Louisiana for years now, including the time that Clinton was in office. But I know, somehow or another, that's George W. Bush's fault, isn't it? Geez! You'd think that someone that claims to be so educated would at least try and demonstrate it once in a while!!!
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That have absolutely nothing to do with the topic at hand.

It's not even the same state, FFS.
Racism takes many forms. Main aim is to negate the military results of the Civil War.
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Amazingly, I've had to show a picture ID to vote in Louisiana for years now, including the time that Clinton was in office. But I know, somehow or another, that's George W. Bush's fault, isn't it? Geez! You'd think that someone that claims to be so educated would at least try and demonstrate it once in a while!!!
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We've discused this before. Picture ID is NOT required to vote.

But (according to the Sensenbrenner- Watts Report of 2006), La has attempted to disenfranchise Blacks some 96 times since the mid 1990's.
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And, once again, nothing to do with the topic at hand.

Perhaps your own thread may get you the discussion you're seeking?
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And, once again, nothing to do with the topic at hand.

Perhaps your own thread may get you the discussion you're seeking?
Your opinion. facts say otherwise.
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Georgia, Louisiana, and other states (most in South) where racism was codified in the awarding of the franchise, are covered by the Voting Rights Act of 1965, as reautorized in July, 2006.

Racism is (and was) endemic in Southern culture, and THAT is the commonality.
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Your opinion. facts say otherwise.
No, I'm pretty certain that its a fact that Georgia and Louisiana are different states.
I'd be at least marginally interested in a thread on the Georgia ID law if want to start one, but its silly to imply that the Jena events are somehow attributable to that law or the presidential administration.
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Mrs M.,

We've discused this before. Picture ID is NOT required to vote.

But (according to the Sensenbrenner- Watts Report of 2006), La has attempted to disenfranchise Blacks some 96 times since the mid 1990's.
A picture ID or a signed affidavit IS required to vote in Louisiana. How many times do you have to be told that before it registers in your brain?

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What do I need to bring with me when I go to the polls to vote? (R.S. 18:562(A))

Louisiana law requires a picture identification card to vote at the polling place. This can include a Louisiana driver's license, a Louisiana Special ID card, or other generally recognized picture identification card. If you do not have a picture ID card, you may sign an affidavit which will be attached to the precinct register, and you will be required to provide further identification as requested by the Commissioner at the polling place.
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A picture ID or a signed affidavit IS required to vote in Louisiana. How many times do you have to be told that before it registers in your brain?


Voter Registration
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A 'signed affadavit' is NOT a 'Picture ID', is it Mrs M?

Affadavits, or the like, are required in ALL states, except North Dakota.
And even in ND that will be changfing in response to Fed Law.
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Nicely ignoring the other part of her post.

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A 'signed affadavit' is NOT a 'Picture ID', is it Mrs M?

Affadavits, or the like, are required in ALL states, except North Dakota.
And even in ND that will be changfing in response to Fed Law.
"a picture ID or a signed affidavit" (not 'affadavit') is required...one or the other. Since a picture ID is needed at the bank to cash a check, at the welfare office, at the food stamp office, etc., there's no reason for a person not to have one, especially since they only cost $18 and are good for four years. However, if those that don't want to get an ID want to go through the hassle of going to the Registrar of Voters office with several forms of ID, including a birth certificate which also cost money, and then after signing the affidavit, still having to bring other forms of ID with them to the polling place, then more power to them. And to those too stupid to understand the need for a picture ID or affidavit when voting, don't bitch about voter fraud when Joe Blow votes in the place of his dead dad and uncle along with his own vote.
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