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Re: The drinking age:
And that doesn't suck? How exactly was that person being a menace to society?
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Re: The drinking age:
I would not, but if you would then identify yourself as a law enforcement officer and state reasonable causes for your questions, I would answer.
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Re: The drinking age:
As psychoactive substances are the topic I know more about than anything else it's somewhat difficult to take a discussion of legal restrictions on alcohol in the United States seriously, because alcohol (and tobacco) are specifically exempted from the Controlled Substances Act (CSA) without any explanation. The CSA (1970) established federal "drug scheduling" to place a given psychoactive substance on one of five levels ("schedules") according to their safety, potential for abuse and addiction/dependence, and accepted medical use. Schedule I drugs, which include marijuana and heroin, are totally illegal. Schedules II through V are all available (with decreasing restrictions) for pharmacological purposes. Methamphetamine is Schedule II.
Laws against psychoactive substances tend to lose their meaning when they are applied arbitrarily. Alcohol clearly meets the conditions required to place it in Schedule I, thereby criminalizing its possession, consumption, manufacture, and distribution across the board. Ultimately it falls on the public to exercise what little common sense they can muster (by virtue of lack of education and/or experience) in all matters related to drugs, including alcohol. |
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If I had a reasonable cause to ask you these questions, would it matter if I were a cop?
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But he was arrested for public intoxication...
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No, I wouldn't. Why would I?
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Re: The drinking age:
A police officer making this request has no more right to question you than do I unless he suspects criminal activity.
On a personal level, feel free to bend over if someone in uniform asks you to do so. I'm just saying...you are not required to.
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...the government...is caving in...with their specious arguments couched in the...language of civil rights law, and that the churches ... likewise crumbling to...rhetoric which is nothing but heretical sophistry -- ~F Phelps Platitudes like the one you offer are no different - and no less incorrect - than the jackass part-time Christian who says, "I'm going to heaven because I'm nice to people." It so misses the point.~Impugn |
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...the government...is caving in...with their specious arguments couched in the...language of civil rights law, and that the churches ... likewise crumbling to...rhetoric which is nothing but heretical sophistry -- ~F Phelps Platitudes like the one you offer are no different - and no less incorrect - than the jackass part-time Christian who says, "I'm going to heaven because I'm nice to people." It so misses the point.~Impugn |
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Surely that's a distinction you can make. And, on the whole "bend over" thing, keep that amongst you and your friends, huh? No need for stupid bullshit like that here...
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Fine. Please provide a reference to some case law which demonstrates that a policeman asking you a question, when there is no reason to suspect you're involved in a crime, is illegal...
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In Terry v. Ohio, 392 U.S. 1 (1968), the United States Supreme Court ruled that, without probable cause or a warrant, the police can briefly detain a person for investigatory purposes if the officer has a reasonable suspicion of criminal activity. The Court determined that such a stop need not be based upon probable cause necessary to effect an arrest under the Fourth Amendment, but must be based upon specific and articulable facts that give rise to a reasonable suspicion of criminal activity. The case was Terry v. Ohio. Note the bolded parts - they can't just stop you for no reason - they have to have a reasonable suspicion that you're doing something illegal. |
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Who makes the determination, right then and there, as to whether or not those questions are warranted? I got a buck that says it isn't you...
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