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Old 11-22-2007
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Do Blacks Always Feel That Their Color Is The Main Cause Of Their Troubles

My wife is black and she often says to me that the reason somebody was rude to her or tried to keep her down was just because she's black. I usually tell her it's probably because they're jerks not because they're racists. Most likely they do that to everyone.

But do some blacks go thru life with a huge chip on their shoulders?

Some of them use it to push them to be better and some of them use it as an excuse to fail. 'Whitey is holding me back' is the usual excuse. They use it as a crutch most of their lives.

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U.S. Rep. Danny Davis Says Chicago Cops Pulled Him Over Because He's Black

Mike Parker CHICAGO (CBS) ― U.S. Rep. Danny Davis (D-7th District) said Wednesday he was the victim of racial profiling.

CBS 2's Mike Parker reports, the congressman insists the only reason he was pulled over by Chicago police is because he is black.

"I hope that this was some kind of isolated instance, but I know in my heart of hearts, I know that it's not," Davis said.

The congressman said he was driving three friends home early Monday morning when two white Chicago police officers pulled him over and said he had swerved over the center line before making a left turn from Kedzie onto Douglas Boulevard.



The congressman was nailed with a $75 ticket and a date in traffic court on Dec. 28. He denies doing anything wrong.

"There was just no reason I could conjure up other than the fact that there were four black people in a car," he said.

Chicago police confirmed that a ticket was issued but said nothing about Davis' allegation that he was singled out for what he calls "driving while black."

A recent survey suggests that 59 percent of African-Americans believe they've been racially profiled in traffic stops by police. The congressman said police need to put an end to it.

"Something needs to happen and it needs to be real. And we're just a better city than that," Davis said.

He intends to fight the ticket he says was "simply wrong."

Davis is calling on city leaders to "bridge the gap" between police and the minority community.

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Re: Do Blacks Always Feel That Their Color Is The Main Cause Of Their Troubles

Kanye West best exemplified the black state of mind.

"Bush doesn't care for Black People!!!"

This is huge in the African-American mindset. West has made millions because he had the 'Courage' to say what everyone was thinking. And the networks ran with it.

Bush is white so he must hate blacks, right?

Sounds like a crutch to me.

Blame whitey for everything.

Blame him because you got fired for mouthing off to the boss, or causing trouble constantly at work, or wrecked your car when you spilt beer on your lap, or when somebody cut you off in traffic, or blame him because you can't stop using Crack. After all, everyone hates you because of your color, not because your pride won't allow you to say you're sorry when you screw up. No, whitey is to blame for all of that.

Whitey hates you so why not park in a handicapped parking space even though you're perfectly healthy.

If the man pulls you over it must be because you're black. Deep down in your heart you know it's because of your skin color.
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Re: Do Blacks Always Feel That Their Color Is The Main Cause Of Their Troubles

Bush isn't racist (I really don't like Bush at all, and I have millions of problems with him, but I don't think that this is one of them), Kanye West is.

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Bush isn't racist (I really don't like Bush at all, and I have millions of problems with him, but I don't think that this is one of them), Kanye West is.


The Politically Correct crowd says that Black People cannot be racist, only victims of racism.

That is why the only class of people not included in those being considered victims of hate crimes is whites. But only if they are heterosexuals.
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Re: Do Blacks Always Feel That Their Color Is The Main Cause Of Their Troubles

this is why , in my opinion

politically correct = mentally retarded

I have seen , in the nations people who were very racist against whites and blacks to a lesser degree and for no reason whatsoever

if a person holds what happened hundreds of years ago (or even decades if it never happened to them personally ) against the descendants of those who oppressed way back then , then that person is not only stupid but racist and usually lazy or ignorant or combinations of those things.

Blacks , imho tend to be the most coddled and least deserving of any further special treatment , yet whine and bitch and claim that everything is racially motivated and that they were en masse violated and abused by primarily the whites.
most of them have never received anything but the benefits of their being on this continent and in this country.

let us take a look at the areas where their ancestors came from...poverty , ignorance , primitive existence ,disease,famine a complete lack of progress much beyond where the local peoples were when their ancestors were brought here ... looks like they missed out on so very much by being here doesn't it? If they have such a huge problem with it , why then do they not go back to their motherland? no one is holding them here.

yet they suck at the teat of the nation and still bitch about what happened "how they was slaves" when none of those alive today ever were.( if there is one record holding long lived ex slave out there then that person does have a right to make the claim , but none of the modern generation does )

I have known many racist blacks , hell you can see it in their use of racial slurs for white people , yet if a white guy says the "N" word ( what a bunch of silly shit that is) then it is hate speech and even though blacks often hurl it around amongst themselves , they are suddenly deeply wounded and afflicted by it.


My own ancestors were badly treated in the beginning years of this country .
MUCH worse than the blacks were, the oppressors didnt bother to keep them around as slaves and feed them and provide for them, they were hunted down women and children raped and slaughtered , young men castrated and abused before being killed and scalped so their hair could be bloody trophies of how they had beaten the "savages" ... yes it does make my blood boil a bit ...

But , I do not blame todays whites for those things , nor do I claim to have suffered the persecution my ancestors did .
we celebrate thanksgiving as a time when the pilgrims rejoiced and thanked God and honored our ancestors for helping them survive ( prior to the later troubles )
when a white person calls me injun or tonto or chief -- I do not clutch my chest and shake uncontrollably and scream "you racist bastard!!" I usually talk to them and in the course of doing so I usually come away with the confirmation that they hold no hate for me and I give them an insight into who I am ,we often part friends.

those who mean ill will and hate will not change and are a minority in all races , they are to be pitied and ignored , unless they become violent.

I was deeply involved with a young lady who happened to be black for a good number of years , I was finally able to get her to see that in most cases what is over sensitively perceived as racism is not there in fact in most cases.

People should ALL act like human beings first and foremost , love or hate each other for what they do not the color they are( and I am speaking to the Blacks , and all the other nonwhites , just as much as I am to the whites)
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Re: Do Blacks Always Feel That Their Color Is The Main Cause Of Their Troubles

I know plenty of black people without that huge chip on their shoulder.

More often than not, the ones who are successful know that their race was not a hinderance. Those who are complete and utter fucking failures are the ones who need something other than their own incompetence to blame their failures on...
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Re: Do Blacks Always Feel That Their Color Is The Main Cause Of Their Troubles

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The Politically Correct crowd says that Black People cannot be racist, only victims of racism.

That is why the only class of people not included in those being considered victims of hate crimes is whites. But only if they are heterosexuals.
Not true.

As far as the OP goes, I think that perhaps you should talk to your wife about it some more. I don't know that anyone who has answered thus far (including me) really has insight to the experience of being black in the US.
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Re: Do Blacks Always Feel That Their Color Is The Main Cause Of Their Troubles

I certainly think there are deep segregation issues still in America. There are Americans who just don't really like black people just because that's always been the way it is. I go to a campus south of Chicago every year and there is a black part of town that everyone thinks is some kind of blight on the rest of the community. It's strange to encounter it even in an educated town like that.
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Re: Do Blacks Always Feel That Their Color Is The Main Cause Of Their Troubles

You must have noticed how they left garbage all over their streets and lived in filth, then blamed whitey for it all.

You know you're the first person of color that I've talked to on these kinds of sites that doesn't use racism as a crutch. They hate Bill Cosby because he had the nerve of pointing out their weakness to them.

To them Mayor Nagan, Kanye West, Snoop Dog, and many others are people that deserve to be admired. But Bill Cosby, Condi Rice, and Clarence Thomas are sellouts. Their world is upside down.
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There are not many blacks in Sweden, but i have encountered the same fenomenon here. I have worked for a government office and made decisions on workers' compensation. There was one black man whose case I tried and who did not get any compensation. It was a fairly strong case against his right to such compensation. Despite this, he stood in the foyer of the gov't agency and screamed at me that it must only have been because he was black that he did not get any compensation. I have never before or since been so blatantly accused of being a racist.

I try to treat everyone as individuals. What I do not like is people who victimize themselves, regardless of colour, creed, religion or anything else.
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I certainly think there are deep segregation issues still in America. There are Americans who just don't really like black people just because that's always been the way it is. I go to a campus south of Chicago every year and there is a black part of town that everyone thinks is some kind of blight on the rest of the community. It's strange to encounter it even in an educated town like that.
In my little corner of the world, most predominatly black areas are, indeed filthy. Is this how it is in the area you are talking about? If so, perhaps it is the filth and crime that turns people off, rather than the color of the ihabitants.
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I am staying out of this....
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Re: Do Blacks Always Feel That Their Color Is The Main Cause Of Their Troubles

It never ceases to amaze me how much a person can unknowingly reveal about their own brand of thinking by using stereotypical branding of people and incidences they clearly have absolutely no first hand information about.

This a doubledged sword. Though we almost universally "know" that "profiling" has a unsavory flavor to it that runs counter to individual liberties, I also live in the real world, which tells me that police have to recognize suspect situations and individuals.

I see folks above trying to spin this US Rep as some sort of loser decrying his lot in life. Perhaps one of you would care to lay your credentials out and compare with his? I know nothing of the man, but I'm guessing that he's logged a success or two in his life.
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It never ceases to amaze me how much a person can unknowingly reveal about their own brand of thinking by using stereotypical branding of people and incidences they clearly have absolutely no first hand information about.

This a doubledged sword. Though we almost universally "know" that "profiling" has a unsavory flavor to it that runs counter to individual liberties, I also live in the real world, which tells me that police have to recognize suspect situations and individuals.

I see folks above trying to spin this US Rep as some sort of loser decrying his lot in life. Perhaps one of you would care to lay your credentials out and compare with his? I know nothing of the man, but I'm guessing that he's logged a success or two in his life.
I'm not sure what you mean but I do have first-hand knowledge because half of my family is black, my wife's half.

My wife has pretty much written them off because outside her immediate family dealing with her people is too difficult. They are mostly closed minded, stereotypical, and dishonest.

Just ask Oprah what she thinks. She refused to build her school here in the US because the inner-city youth expected too much and aren't at all interested in an education. But even in Africa she ended up having serious problems with them as well.
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Not true.
You're wrong.

Read the last sentence on page 8 of the first paragraph on the following link.
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This book was being given to some students to read at the University of Delaware.

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