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Speakeasy · #31 (**permalink**) 01-21-2008

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I remember back in 2000(I think) the NFL didn't let Arizona host the superbowl because they didn't recognize MLK day as an official holiday, and obviously, the state lost millions of dollars. Now, I don't think it is nearly as calculated as Mud believes it is, but he does have a point, this is a highly politicized holiday that CAN be used to instill guilt on people who disagree with it, and even further punish them like the in the case of Arizona.

The NFL is not the federal government. From what I can tell, the government has never put any sort of penalties on states that refused to observe the holiday.

timj219 · #32 (**permalink**) 01-21-2008

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What I'm talking about is well established and intergrated into the black community and represents everything they need to stop the constant self-destructive spiral they are currently in.

Whites can't talk of it because they aren't black and they wouldn't understand. Anyone who brings it up is accused of telling tales by those who are ether in on it or cannot accept it because they feel that it's impossible that they could have been made a fool of for so long.

Well established where? By who? I'm white. What is it I can't talk about? I am not aware of anything I can't talk about. Who is accusing someone of "telling tales"? I don't understand any of thisstuff you are saying.

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Bill Cosby is one person who speaks of it and is shouted down every time he does. He or anyone like him are called sellouts, Oreos, Uncle Toms. Screw individuality. Blacks need to stick together to keep whites from screwing them over, because that's all they want to do after all, right? But not White Democrats. They only have good intentions for them.

No accountablity for their own actions, no acceptance of responsibility. Use the color of your skin as a crutch and milk it for all it's worth. Perfect Democrats.

Racism goes both ways. Hatred, bigotry, envy, looking for an easy way out. Prime targets for Democrats.

This part is so random and scattered that I have no idea what you are trying to say.

Tautog · #33 (**permalink**) 01-21-2008

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The NFL is not the federal government. From what I can tell, the government has never put any sort of penalties on states that refused to observe the holiday.

Very true, however the NFL is part of society, therefor it is safe to say that society places penalties on states who do not adhere to thier politically correct agenda. I find society acting this way just as disturbing as if goverment were to act this way.

Speakeasy · #34 (**permalink**) 01-21-2008

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Very true, however the NFL is part of society, therefor it is safe to say that society places penalties on states who do not adhere to thier politically correct agenda. I find society acting this way just as disturbing as if goverment were to act this way.

Yes, but as a free society, they should be free to do this. If society disagreed with the NFL's actions, they could've further protested the Superbowl.

Besides, this doesn't have much to do with what mudwhistle is saying. He appears to be saying the MLK Day is some sort of Democratic conspiracy to make black people hate white Republicans or something.

mudwhistle · #35 (**permalink**) 01-21-2008

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Well established where? By who? I'm white. What is it I can't talk about? I am not aware of anything I can't talk about. Who is accusing someone of "telling tales"? I don't understand any of thisstuff you are saying.
This part is so random and scattered that I have no idea what you are trying to say.

Then you're taking back what you said?

You said what I am asserting is vague and unsupportable. Excuse me, but that sounds like you think I'm just making it all up, telling tales, lying to you.

You only see it as random because you can't grasp the concept. You can't grasp the concept because I haven't told you everything........and I don't have the time to re-educate a closed-minded individual who only believes the conventional wisdom the left has taught us all in public schools.

And the fact that you're white proves nothing.

You have no idea unless somebody points it out to you, which you are unwilling to believe. Unless CNN or CBS rubs your face in it, which they will next time Hell freezes over, you don't think it exists.

timj219 · #36 (**permalink**) 01-21-2008

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Then you're taking back what you said?

You said what I am asserting is vague and unsupportable. Excuse me, but that sounds like you think I'm just making it all up, telling tales, lying to you.

No. Vague and unsupportable is not the same as lying in any reality I'm familiar with. Vague and unsupportable means vague and unsupportable. Are you going to make specific claims and provide support for them? Then they wouldn't be vague and unsupportable any more.

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You only see it as random because you can't grasp the concept. You can't grasp the concept because I haven't told you everything........and I don't have the time to re-educate a closed-minded individual who only believes the conventional wisdom the left has taught us all in public schools.

Please forgive my stupidity and ignorance. If would just put a disclaimer on yuor posts that I must be able to understand the concept without any explanation of it then I would have left you alone.

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And the fact that you're white proves nothing.

Except you said whites can't talk about "it" and I'm white and I talk about everything so I need to know what it is I can't talk about.

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You have no idea unless somebody points it out to you, which you are unwilling to believe. Unless CNN or CBS rubs your face in it, which they will next time Hell freezes over, you don't think it exists.

I guess I would have to start watching CNN and CBS in order for them to rub my face in it. In the meantime can't you please spare me a few tidbits of your wisdom in a form even a stupid person like me can understand?

mudwhistle · #37 (**permalink**) 01-21-2008

To be specific, whites don't understand, according to blacks, what it is like to be black.

They don't know and they aren't allowed to criticize any black person for being racist because blacks, according the blacks themselves, cannot be racist. It is impossible. They are only reacting to what they feel is a racist white society. Any white who does is labeled a racist. Any black who does publicly is labeled a sellout.

mudwhistle · #38 (**permalink**) 01-21-2008

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No. Vague and unsupportable is not the same as lying in any reality I'm familiar with. Vague and unsupportable means vague and unsupportable. Are you going to make specific claims and provide support for them? Then they wouldn't be vague and unsupportable any more.
Please forgive my stupidity and ignorance. If would just put a disclaimer on yuor posts that I must be able to understand the concept without any explanation of it then I would have left you alone.
Except you said whites can't talk about "it" and I'm white and I talk about everything so I need to know what it is I can't talk about.
I guess I would have to start watching CNN and CBS in order for them to rub my face in it. In the meantime can't you please spare me a few tidbits of your wisdom in a form even a stupid person like me can understand?

And you are just trying to piss me off.

You use a black avatar, you ask stupid questions and cause me to get angry and then report me in an attempt to get me kicked off the site.

Where have I seen this before? Any thoughts?

End of discussion.

timj219 · #39 (**permalink**) 01-21-2008

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And you are just trying to piss me off.

You use a black avatar, you ask stupid questions and cause me to get angry and then report me in an attempt to get me kicked off the site.

Where have I seen this before? Any thoughts?

End of discussion.

My black avatar pisses you off? My apologies. But since I have never reported anyone in all the time I've been here I think you can relax. I'm just trying to make some kind of sense out of what you've been posting.

It is amusing though that your fear of a conspiracy to get you banned has so quickly confirmed my opinion that your opinions are the result of a paranoid delusion.

Si modo · #40 (**permalink**) 01-21-2008

Mud, I think you are trying to say something, but not many here are getting it. I'm not insulting, just stating a fact. I usually like to quote the movie Cool Hand Luke at this point: "What we have here is a failure to communicate."

pramjockey · #41 (**permalink**) 01-21-2008

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WHAT DOES MLK DAY REPRESENT?

MLK day is pure politics. It's not meant to remember a great man or his works. It's to remind us once again about racism in this country and who is responsible for it. It is also meant to keep blacks in the Democrat fold.

There are so many racial groups that have fit in better then blacks have. Many of them have had great success in building their lives and businesses shortly after arriving in this country. But because blacks at one time were the largest block of minority voters in this country Liberals have held them under their thumb for decades by keeping them fighting society, keeping them dependent on the government, keeping them hateful toward so-called white society. Little do they know that white society doesn't exist anymore.

By blaming whites collectively for something one man did decades ago Democrats have been manipulating blacks to vote for them.

MLK gives blacks reason to hate whites and MLK gives whites an opportunity to feel guilt for something most of them alive today have nothing to feel guilty for.

Next month is Black History Month, so get ready for plenty of biographies about blacks being hosed down in the streets of Memphis and Chicago by whites. The dishonesty of telling us that it really wasn't Democrats in Liberal cities and states who were doing the hosing but white Republicans. Seems like this type of thing went on in urban settings which traditionally are run by Liberals. But because they are Liberals they can use the press and Hollywood to blame it all on Republicans.

What I find most fascinating is that this post is followed with this:

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“Any fool can criticize, condemn and complain and most fools do.”

-Ben Franklin

The irony here is mindboggling sometimes.

Mrs. M · #42 (**permalink**) 01-21-2008

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Katrina was used to cause divisions between blacks and whites.

Too bad the media hasn't focused on the fact that many of the New Orleanians are still waiting for their handout instead of doing what others have done...help themselves!!!!

Captain Trips · #43 (**permalink**) 01-21-2008

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The Holiday, Black History Month, the naming of streets after MLK, anyone who fights against it is labeled a 'Racist'.

When it's idiots calling you a "racist" there's no reason to even react. Idiots do and say idiotic things :-)

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White guilt set it up and anyone who tries to remove it will be labeled a racist.

Fuck 'em. They're stupid. Don't worry about it.

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Liberalism is facism with a warm smile and a handshake.

That is why it's selling so well.

To SOME.

Not enough though. I'm not too worried. Common sense isn't totally gone YET.

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I don't see the evil hand of liberalism in every single facet of everything, only politics. Yet these days politics is invading our lives more and more.

It is.

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Soon you won't be able to tell what is real and what is fantasy because they will seem to be one in the same. Much of what you have come to believe today is pure political fantasy, much like your belief in what MLK Day stands for.

There still exist those of us that clearly see the difference between reality and fantasy.

MLK day isn't such a bad day to recognize (not celebrate, RECOGNIZE. There's a difference.). Until you get some twisty minded idiot speaking out about it. Ignore the bird brained idealists with their heads in the clouds.

Even MLK would shake his head and be disgusted by their stupidity.

Steve · #44 (**permalink**) 01-21-2008

Hmmm.

I'm white.

I don't "celebrate" MLK's birthday. I don't celebrate black history month. I don't feel guilty because of slavery or racism, as I've had nothing to do with them.

I also don't believe that the holiday is a government sponored whitey-hating extravaganza.

Such an assertion is retarded...

Steve · #45 (**permalink**) 01-21-2008

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And you are just trying to piss me off.

You use a black avatar, you ask stupid questions and cause me to get angry and then report me in an attempt to get me kicked off the site.

Where have I seen this before? Any thoughts?

End of discussion.

Ah, yes. It's all because someone's out to get you...