Sweet. Anyone who wants to protest in Berkeley now gets a designated parking space and a free weekly sound permit.

Guess the Berkeley city council didn't think that all the way through....

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I don't think they a doing a good job with thinking, fullstop. I was first curious whether or not this issue had to do with sexual orientation discrimination ordinances, but having read more about it, the city council actually supports the measure due to vocal support of Code Pink's agenda. IMO, they have simply drank the Kool-Aid of extremists/radicalists.

And typical for all who drink Kool-Aid on any given issue(s), stunts like this only hurt themselves and their causes and set them back, especially as they create favourable stereotypes for spindoctoring by ideological opponents which exploit Kool-Aiders as strawmen for all reasonable non Kool-Aid people to whom they are opposed.

In addition, these Kool-Aiders even give ideological opponents a freebie promotion. For example, this was manna for Jim DeMint (R-SC) to get going with his own grandstanding for some easy self-promotion by denouncing the city and committing to introduce a bill in Congress to stop federal funds being used in Berkeley until such time as the city reverses its declaration regarding the Marine recruitment centre.

IMO, though, it's probably a good idea to create a federal law regarding military accessibility. DeMint spoke about funding withdrawal, but the US military is also an issue of federal power.

The federal government is entrusted to raise and support a military, and in areas where the federal government is entrusted with certain powers, the supremacy clause applies insofar as state action. Consistent with the First Amendment and case law regarding it, it is wise, IMO, to codify acceptable, prohibited and First Amendment protected but sanctionable (loss of funding) behaviours so that impediments to military recruiting and other actions intended to frustrate military functioning either be prohibited or discouraged.

yes pete, I just saw this as a blurb on the tele....yes it appears driven by code pink, their spokeswoman spoke for the city council etc........well okey dokey, guess its time to apply the Solomon amendment to an even greater degree or create a new amendment if that’s not within its mandate.......cut off all federal funds to the city.

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So the state planners must arrogate to themselves the right to manipulate any sector of the economic system if the good of “society” or the “general welfare” is paramount.

Ipso- if the rights of the individual get in the way, the rights of the individual must be sublimated.

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That's great ! Over here in Europe you have to stand around in the cold when protesting and get a coach or train to the protest. In The USA they give you car parking spaces for protests, much more civilised . Truly the land of opportunity !

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I guess Berkly should be renamed to douche bag USSR.

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Just need another Jim Jones :-)

Jim Jones and the koolaid idiots.

Dead idiots that'd be

How the fuck does this have anything to do with the USSR?

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Do you think these people are pro-American?Preventing the military from doing it's hardly sounds American.These are the same people who chant free speech all day when they want to say something and will drown out anyone whom they disagree with so that their speech gets silenced or not heard.

BERKELEY / Facing off over Marine Corps / 3 war opponents chain selves to door of recruiting station, and right-wing blogosphere goes ballistic
As the right-wing blogosphere railed and a U.S. senator vowed financial retaliation against the Berkeley City Council for its effort to boot the Marine Corps out of town, three war protesters ratcheted up pressure from the left by chaining themselves Friday to the front door of the downtown Marine recruiting office.

The demonstrators snapped their locks shut at 7 a.m. and spent the next 7 1/2 hours blocking the door, waving and chanting as hundreds of cars driving by honked in support. Finally, at 2:30 p.m., police snipped the chains and arrested them.

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"There can be no divided allegiance here. Any man who says he is an American, but something else also, isn’t an American at all. We have room for but one flag, the American flag… We have room for but one language here, and that is the English language… and we have room for but one sole loyalty and that is a loyalty to the American people.”—Theodore Roosevelt

It'd have been a lot easier to say "nothing."

Each side can call the other anti-American. It doesn't really add anything to the discussion.

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The USSR regulated the freedoms of their people, much like Berkely, Commiefornia is now.

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You might be too young, pram. I still remember the old stories in the days before Glasnost, when protesters were set up in virtual dachas outside the offices of the military in the USSR to enable them to better protest the Soviet Army's recruiting efforts. It was all over the news.

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Too young?

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So are you endorsing the idea that people should need a permit before they can protest and express their opinion?

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No.

I can see the need for parade permits if there is a large number of people expected and there will be a need for crowd control (for safety). However, those permits must be easy to acquire, and distributed without discrimination.

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