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Re: Illegal to look at children while thinking bad thoughts

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It addressed a point made by someone else. That's the nature of a discussion.

I fully understand that you probably don't think it adds to the discussion. Thankfully, though, what you think doesn't really matter to me...
So he mentioned that he looked at 14yos for sexual gratification?

"I never look at a 14 year old and feel a sexual attraction."
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C'mon Pram - your taking the comment out of context by not including the rest of the comment that explains that sentence....that is bad form.
Even with your supposition that genetics determines that attraction, you're still dead wrong.

That's like men excusing marital infidelity with "my genes made me do it."


NONE of the men that I know feel any sexual attraction to a pubescent girl. NONE.
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I'd have to think nobody would be arrested unless a guy pulled his pants down in response. The actual phrasing says "intentionally engages in visual surveillance." The example wouldn't seem to qualify as intentional surveillance.
All that would need to be added is for someone to observe it with sexual gratification continually. Why should that be a crime?
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Even with your supposition that genetics determines that attraction, you're still dead wrong.

That's like men excusing marital infidelity with "my genes made me do it."
No, it's like men excusing their attraction to other women even though they are already married.
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NONE of the men that I know feel any sexual attraction to a pubescent girl. NONE.
Did you ask every man you know whether he did or did not? Did you assume all would commit social suicide to answer it honestly?
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Re: Illegal to look at children while thinking bad thoughts

Slon, I'm not interested in discussing anything with you, especially in regards to sexual attraction to children. You make me far too nauseous.

It's really not worth your time to type out posts to me; this is the last response you'll get.
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So he mentioned that he looked at 14yos for sexual gratification?
Did he?

You'd need to point that out to me, because I never accused him of saying that.

What he said was sexual attraction to a fourteen year old is usually a matter of having a healthy sexual appetite .

I am of the opinion that a grown man having a sexual attraction to a 14 year old is not the result of having a "healthy sexual appetite", it's the result of being a sick, demented pervert...
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Even with your supposition that genetics determines that attraction, you're still dead wrong.

That's like men excusing marital infidelity with "my genes made me do it."


NONE of the men that I know feel any sexual attraction to a pubescent girl. NONE.
Then all you know are gay men.
Seriously, this is irrelevant to the thread - but it is a scientific fact that men are attracted to pubescent bodies.

Case in point - you see a photo of a young woman in a magazine that is fully developed, her hair/makeup etc. hides her age well...obviously you like what you see, then you find out that the magazine editors etc. went to jail for the photo because the "young woman" was actually 14 years old....you, I and every other normal man would feel like shit and throw away the mag in disgust...BUT it didn't change the fact that we were attracted to what we saw.

Scientifically we are attracted to pubescent bodies...if there is a 14 yr old that is advanced physically for her age - and we didn't know her age - we would look - but when we found out how old she was - we would look no more.

I am an active child advocate, and as I have stated before used my IT skills to assist authorities to catching pedophiles on 3 occasions. I feel VERY strongly about the deterioration of our society that is ruining childrens lives - including the promiscuity among teens that has resulted in 70% single parenthood in some sectors of our society.

This thread isn't about scientific fact, perhaps we should get back to what it was about....that a few members here want to be free to have their way with children.
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Then all you know are gay men.
Careful. They're probably going to call you a pedophile soon.
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Seriously, this is irrelevant to the thread - but it is a scientific fact that men are attracted to pubescent bodies.

Case in point - you see a photo of a young woman in a magazine that is fully developed, her hair/makeup etc. hides her age well...obviously you like what you see, then you find out that the magazine editors etc. went to jail for the photo because the "young woman" was actually 14 years old....you, I and every other normal man would feel like shit and throw away the mag in disgust...
You would feel sick for feeling in a manner that you consider to be scientifically normal?
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BUT it didn't change the fact that we were attracted to what we saw.
Would you cancel out your attraction by adding her to the "under 18" category in your mental registry?
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Scientifically we are attracted to pubescent bodies...if there is a 14 yr old that is advanced physically for her age - and we didn't know her age - we would look - but when we found out how old she was - we would look no more.

I am an active child advocate, and as I have stated before used my IT skills to assist authorities to catching pedophiles on 3 occasions. I feel VERY strongly about the deterioration of our society that is ruining childrens lives - including the promiscuity among teens that has resulted in 70% single parenthood in some sectors of our society.

This thread isn't about scientific fact, perhaps we should get back to what it was about....that a few members here want to be free to have their way with children.
This thread is about that? The law was not discussing allowing/disallowing the rape of kids.
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Scientifically we are attracted to pubescent bodies...
Scientific fact?

Funny, I've never seen any research to back this up. Perhaps you could find some for me? I'd love to read it.
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Scientific fact?

Funny, I've never seen any research to back this up. Perhaps you could find some for me? I'd love to read it.
...you need to read an article before you know you are attracted to women?
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...you need to read an article before you know you are attracted to women?
Only to 18+ women. A second under 18 and all males (that aren't sicko, pedophile assholes) puke and fall into a coma after looking at them.
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Only to 18+ women. A second under 18 and all males (that aren't sicko, pedophile assholes) puke and fall into a coma after looking at them.
Depends on your age - I am 43 - so yes if I look at an underage girl for sexual gratification I hope I would vomit and fall into a coma - better than taking advantage of a child.
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I'm not going down that road again Slon, we are all aware of your opinions here.
I happen to believe children are more valuable than an instrument to satisfy me.
Down what road? I think your answer here will be very important to this discussion. I'll make it easier for you. By "taking advantage," do you mean physical sexual contact or not?
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Re: Illegal to look at children while thinking bad thoughts

And by the way Pram - reading my posts - I didn't clarify myself well....when I say pubescent body, I don't mean your average 90 lb. teenie bopper with half-egg breats and bean-pole legs - I mean those girls where you truly can't tell their age. Which, primarily consist of girls 16 and older...not 14.
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And by the way Pram - reading my posts - I didn't clarify myself well....when I say pubescent body, I don't mean your average 90 lb. teenie bopper with half-egg breats and bean-pole legs - I mean those girls where you truly can't tell their age. Which, primarily consist of girls 16 and older...not 14.
Well, Iam, I do recognize that you're not some kind of paedophile. If I thought you were, I'd not be willing to discuss the issue with you at all.

I can honestly say, though, that until a woman gets well into her 20s, I just don't find her attractive. There's too much "girl" in them and not enough "woman."

It became particularly clear to me when I was teaching. It was clear that several of my students were going to develop into very attractive women when they got older (some were 18 or close to 19), but there was still too much child in their faces; I could recognize that they were pretty, but I was in no way sexually attracted to them.
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