COMPLETELY different? Let's see:

Both human.
Both alive.
Both reproductive cells.

Doesn't look to me like they're COMPLETELY different.

In fact, it shouldn't look to anyone who's paying attention like they're COMPLETELY different.

No, actually they're very similar. There is, of course, one obvious difference. But you still haven't explained why that difference should make us treat one of them like a human being and the other one not. All you do, is keep repeating over and over that they're "completely" different (which is obviously false), that it's "comparing apples and oranges" (without explaining why that one difference should make it "apples and oranges"), that the argument is "ridiculous" (without explaining what makes it ridiculous).

I think you need to try something different.

All of the "reading" you pasted in begins with the assumption that an embryo is a human being, which is what's in dispute here. No good until we get past that point.

Yes, don't read and critique what is said on the topic.

No, scream and holler about the source.

Nothing of Value (except America of course) ever came from Christians

Uggh... when the propaganda SPAM comes, I know it's time to duck the conversation for a bit...

I'll check back in with all of you later, perhaps when Dilettante returns to post.

Edit: And TS, you're barking up the wrong tree. Captain Trips will end analogy based arguments by continually repeating that some things simply cannot be compared without offering any reason (the real reason being that it makes his argument look bad, ergo it isn't valid)**

Cap'n, that thing you posted in the Just for Fun section today might be the most disgusting thing I've ever read. I'll re-join the discussion on the stages of development and a realpolitik angle. This hocus-pocus stuff about magical moments isn't my cup of tea.

** Re-edit: See exhibit A, below my post. Simply repeat the assertion sans clarification

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Anyone who is paying attention realizes that thet ARE completely different. Do as many linquistic gymnastics as you want.

Ah HAH.

I found the magic potion.

The magic "Go away doc." potion

I read the cut and paste spam. It was bullshit. Sorry.


Nice of you to bitch about my supposedly not reading your post, yet you clearly didn't read mine or you would have seen that I didn't say anything negative about Christians or Christianity.

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Staun ma groon al nae be afraid
Thoughts awe hame tak awa ma fear
Sweat an bluid hide ma veil awe tears

Too bad they won't get rid of your exemption from the rules and make spamming the forums a "go away Thane" potion.

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When they come a wull staun ma groon
Staun ma groon al nae be afraid
Thoughts awe hame tak awa ma fear
Sweat an bluid hide ma veil awe tears

The belly button lint thing really did ya in eh ?

Nice try at CYA.

I know you think I'm dumb.

Well, think what ya want

Just another thing that you "know" that turns out to be dead wrong...

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When they come a wull staun ma groon
Staun ma groon al nae be afraid
Thoughts awe hame tak awa ma fear
Sweat an bluid hide ma veil awe tears

I didn't "spam" anything. What I posted was well within forum rules.

That you'd redefine spam to mean anything I post with text from another source clearly shows that you dislike me.

Because you dislike me doesn't make what I post "spam."

Maybe I should claim every other time YOU post that YOU'RE "spamming."

Or shitting around the forum like a seagull at the dump ?

Do you have a preference ?

Captain, it's obvious by now that you could use some remedial education, but SURELY you know what the word "completely" means. Don't you?

If two things have any significant things in common, then they aren't "completely" different. Right? Tell me, please, that you're not THAT ignorant!

Well, I found the magic "go away doc" potion.

Now if I could just find the "go away pram" stuff LOL

Probably couldn't afford it

Dammit

I get pretty ignorant on Thursdays. Especially when I'm shoppin' for magic potions to rid myself of ... bugs

Ah. Now I understand.

You're not actually debating, you're just being as obnoxious as possible in the hopes that we'll go away.

I think I'm going to stay around and call you names just for that.