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View Poll Results: Which position best describes your view of abortion and the law?
Abortion should be legal, without any specific restrictions. 19 20.43%
Abortion should be legal, but subject to some restriction(s). 50 53.76%
Abortion should be banned, but subject to exceptions. 10 10.75%
Abortion should be banned, with the sole exception of when the life of the mother is in jeopardy. 14 15.05%
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A fetus, up to a certain period in gestation, is not a viable human being; thus I'm still wondering how 'kill[ing] babies' is the same as abortion. The rest of your post has no relevance.

really... then let me punch your chick in the stomach when shes expecting early in "gestation"....

Its funny how harsh the words are but thats called ethics and morality.

Im just jerking off your argument wich is baby killer.
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That question, I've answered, but I'll repeat my answer: No, I am not God.

That question I've also answered, and I'll repeat my answer: freedom.
Great a liberal with no answer to anything...you just kill babies because its trendy and because it fits your dumb fucking political platform???
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just for your info you havent told me jack shit!
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really... then let me punch your chick in the stomach when shes expecting early in "gestation"....

Its funny how harsh the words are but thats called ethics and morality.

Im just jerking off your argument wich is baby killer.
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Great a liberal with no answer to anything...you just kill babies because its trendy and because it fits your dumb fucking political platform???
I'm a 'liberal', in the US colloquial sense? I am somewhat stylish, but I don't thinking killing babies is trendy at all.

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just for your info you havent told me jack shit!
Then we have something in common.
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OK.

I'm a 'liberal', in the US colloquial sense? I am somewhat stylish, but I don't thinking killing babies is trendy at all.

Then we have something in common.
Wow the substance I'm given on a particular issue is astounding.


Abortion isnt right.....its really, really bad.

do you have ethics or morals?
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No, because you would be stomping on the rights of another human being. Freedom entails some limitations and those are you are free as long as you don't infringe on the rights of another (or other) human being(s).

So what evidence, exactly, can you provide that suggests that unborns, at any stage of development, are something other than human beings? You have the makings of a valid argument if you can provide some definitive evidence and nothing at all if you can't.
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Great a liberal with no answer to anything...you just kill babies because its trendy and because it fits your dumb fucking political platform???
Granting rights to fetuses sure seems to me to be a dumb fucking political platform.
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So what evidence, exactly, can you provide that suggests that unborns, at any stage of development, are something other than human beings? You have the makings of a valid argument if you can provide some definitive evidence and nothing at all if you can't.
I suggest you read the entire thread, as several statements and facts have already been brought up.
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So what evidence, exactly, can you provide that suggests that unborns, at any stage of development, are something other than human beings? You have the makings of a valid argument if you can provide some definitive evidence and nothing at all if you can't.
Hey, why don't we ask a 1 month old fetus to weigh in on the subject?
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Hey, why don't we ask a 1 month old fetus to weigh in on the subject?
You would get the same answer as if you asked a 1 month old infant (whose right to live is protected) to weigh in on the subject.
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I suggest you read the entire thread, as several statements and facts have already been brought up.
I have read the thread and no such "facts" have been brought up. If you believe they have, I welcome you to bring them forward to substantiate your argument.
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You would get the same answer as if you asked a 1 month old infant (whose right to live is protected) to weigh in on the subject.
At least the 1 month old infant could manage to cry, which I would take to be an indication of disdain for your specious arguments.

I mean hell, if we take your logic at face value, moral necessity requires that we immediately pass a Zygote Protection Act.

Gotta stop the "murder", ya know.
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At least the 1 month old infant could manage to cry, which I would take to be an indication of disdain for your specious arguments.

I mean hell, if we take your logic at face value, moral necessity requires that we immediately pass a Zygote Protection Act.

Gotta stop the "murder", ya know.

As cute as you believe your argument to be, it hasn't in the slightest way proved that unborns at any stage of development are any less human than you or less deserving of having their right to live protected.

Are you able to defend your position, or is "cute" all you have?
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As cute as you believe your argument to be, it hasn't in the slightest way proved that unborns at any stage of development are any less human than you or less deserving of having their right to live protected.

Are you able to defend your position, or is "cute" all you have?
If you honestly believe that then you'd best get to work on getting the Zygote Protection Act passed.

Good luck.
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As cute as you believe your argument to be, it hasn't in the slightest way proved that unborns at any stage of development are any less human than you or less deserving of having their right to live protected.

Are you able to defend your position, or is "cute" all you have?
There's a difference because a human without a brain is barely a human at all. It can't think, it can't feel, and it's totally dependent on it's mother. Only when the baby has a brain should abortions be refused.
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