Perhaps. But, I do know that there is growing research that indicates that gender identity issues are biological in nature, having to do with testosterone/estrogen receptors in the brain, IIRC.


Thing is, with just about everything that benefits people, there's also a potential for abuse. But, it seems that those cases of abuse are consistently rare.

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The fact there are medical professionals willing to do this nonsense proves we should start enacting litmus test for these professions. Preventing these tranny/homosexual and other crazies from running and working in the medical and mental health professions should be a priority.

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You can’t tell me your sitting there unable to correlate the homosexual movement to a Boston children’s hospital offering sex changes to children.
Even Pramjockey gave a source saying it’s for no reason other then gender confusion in children.
No!!! This is some moonbat furthering the normalization of gender confusion at the expense of the innocents, nothing more.
Just as well, it was meant as a colorful metaphor towards people that spend all there time on this stuff.
Or there what???
Oh well, Kinda evens out as I was prety much rambling at that part.

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Why do liberals always think that more bureaucracy is the answer to everything? Perhaps you can petition for an entire branch of government with 30,000 employees dedicated to your social engineering cause.

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Wow! Well done! I don't know that it'd have been possible to demonstrate a greater degree of ignorance!

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I believe you are correct that the type and numbers of hormonal receptors is hypothesized to contribute to the feeling of being in the wrong body w.r.t. gender. However, I imagine you are aware that most drugs acting on the brains' receptors can down- or up-regulate the numbers of those receptors. Thus, IF drugs are being prescribed to pre-pubescent children, they can influence the numbers of either homone's receptors before that child even reaches physical maturity when hormones change drastically.

There are still too many unknowns in this particular type of therapy for those who are transgendered for reasons other than physical deformities for me to be comfortable with these types of cases of pre-pubescent children being treated.

[edit] For these reasons, it would be interesting to know if the FDA has approved any hormonal receptor chemotherapy for children. [/edit]

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I'll completely disregard Hank's "link" between gender and homosexuality (largely because, well, it's just rubbish). Instead, by coincidence I watched a science program on Australian ABC tv last night, which talked about a scientists discover of the gene and how she can manipulate the gender of mice. It led me to further wonder about the issue of transgenderism, and how there seems to be increasing scientific evidence that despite the rhetoric of the "moral right", that it is a very real, scientifically explained and proven phenomenon. Anyway, the link to the story and viewable segment is at Meet Dr Edwina Sutton (Catalyst, ABC1).

Sorry, I just can't get there.

Unless you can show that transgenderism and homosexuality are the same thing, you're making no point, other than both are outside what's socially considered the "norm"; I can agree with you there.

But you're trying to make this a gay issue, and you're failing miserably. It's not a gay issue. They're not the same thing, regardless how much you wish they were...

I don't disagree. Manipulating hormones in prepubescents is not acceptable to me, either.

I'm not sure where to look for FDA approvals (other than the obvious google search). Do you have access to anything?

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They are part of the same movement. Therefore they are the same thing.

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Dear fucking God.

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That's like saying that because meat and milk both come from cows, that they are part of the same food group. Gender and sexuality are two completely different things. It's really not that hard to grasp.

I have two excellent ex-colleagues who just went to work for the FDA. (I miss them.) If I can't find it myself, I can e-mail them and ask. I'll try at lunch today, unless I forget. I am curious.

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When it comes to certain profession there should be some bureaucracy there to prevent psychopaths from working in them.Its because we allowed nuts to work in the mental and medical health fields why a lot of this shit is going on.Shit like this is going on because we let nut jobs into the mental health and medical professions.

Unhappy as a boy, Kim became youngest ever transsexual at 12 - Telegraph
boy of 12 is believed to have become the world's youngest sex change patient after convincing doctors that he wanted to live the rest of his life as a female.

The boy - originally called Tim, but now known as Kim - has started to receive hormone treatment, in preparation for the operation that will eventually complete the sex change.

village voice > news > See Tom Be Jane by Julia Reischel
Minutes later, she scampers back, now as naked as a jaybird except for her underwear. Without the dress, you can clearly see her penis, tucked carefully into her pink patterned panties.

Born a biological male whom the family named Nicholas, Nicole today dresses, acts, and lives like a girl. She's been insisting she's female since she could talk, say the Andersons, who asked that their real names not be used for this article. "He has always been attracted to the flowers, the bright colors, his Barbie dolls, and his beloved mermaids," Lauren says, using the male pronoun for her child. In fact, talking with Lauren, who fully supports Nicole's desire to live as a girl, it's clear that the family is still working out the grammar of how to refer to its youngest.

Supporting Boys or Girls When the Line Isn’t Clear - New York Times

OAKLAND, Calif., Dec. 1 — Until recently, many children who did not conform to gender norms in their clothing or behavior and identified intensely with the opposite sex were steered to psychoanalysis or behavior modification.

But as advocates gain ground for what they call gender-identity rights, evidenced most recently by New York City’s decision to let people alter the sex listed on their birth certificates, a major change is taking place among schools and families. Children as young as 5 who display predispositions to dress like the opposite sex are being supported by a growing number of young parents, educators and mental health professionals.

Doctors, some of them from the top pediatric hospitals, have begun to advise families to let these children be “who they are” to foster a sense of security and self-esteem. They are motivated, in part, by the high incidence of depression, suicidal feelings and self-mutilation that has been common in past generations of transgender children. Legal trends suggest that schools are now required to respect parents’ decisions.

“First we became sensitive to two mommies and two daddies,” said Reynaldo Almeida, the director of the Aurora School, a progressive private school in Oakland. “Now it’s kids who come to school who aren’t gender typical.”

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They both have sex with members of the same sex,one group just takes pills and has a doctor modify them a little so they can pretend to be a gender they are not.

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